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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Andalusia] #3494384
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Obviously there are dangerous dogs in all breeds but if I hear "someone is walking down the street and mauled to death" I honestly think Pitbull first.

There is an old saying...."when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not elephants".





By the Numbers: Dangerous Dogs
So how exactly do we measure the “dangerous-ness” of a dog breed? And what factors should we be looking at? There is no correct method or 100% accurate way of measuring how dangerous a dog is. Instead, we have to make use of the data we have.

That said, we measure these dangerous breeds based on two statistics:

How many human fatalities (deaths) caused by this dog breed
How many attacks from this breed have been reported
Aggressive dogs and their attacks on human have been a heated controversial topic ever since the beginning of the domestication of dogs. And in the 1990’s, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) decided to examine the data on these attacks.

They discovered that the Pit Bull was the most dangerous breed in the United States (between 1979 and 1996). In fact, Pit Bulls were involved in 60 fatal incidents, which is more than double the number of incidents of the second place Rottweiler (29 incidents).

But of course, there are always exceptions in addition to many external factors that can play into this. We’re also not trying to generalize all dogs in a breed as dangerous or aggressive. This is simply objective data and facts we can use to measure how dangerous dogs are.

Fatal Dog Attacks – The Report
Of course these dog attacks haven’t stopped since the 90’s. Picking up where the CDC left off, DogsBite.org also conducted an investigation on fatal U.S. dog attacks (from 2005 to 2017).

Not only did they record the attacks, but also: victim’s age, number of dogs involved and consequent punishment (if any). What’s alarming is that the Pit Bull accounted for 66% of all fatalities in the 13-year span. That’s 284 deaths from 2005 to 2017.

The second place Rottweiler accounted for less than 11% of fatal attacks with a mere 45 deaths. The story is in the data. And the data tell us that the Pit Bull is by far, the most dangerous dog breed in the world.





You said you're a doctor. Here you go:

literature on dog bites
From a reputable source.


I read the article you referenced and while it is a lit. review of older information, most coming from government sources and including some worldwide data, I feel it contains some good information.

It does back-up my thought that in Fatal Attacks, a Pitbull seems to be a front runner, I was never talking about just dog bites, only fatalities. I do agree with the thoughts that Pitbulls can be abused by their owners or encouraged to be more aggressive and this results in more fatalities with this breed.

Here's the first paragraph/summary of the article in your link:

Breeds Implicated in Serious Bite Injuries
In a range of studies, the breeds found to be highly represented in biting incidents were German Shepherd Dog,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,50 mixed breed,1,4,6,8,10,11,12,19,17, 20,50 pit bull type,5,9,13,16,21,20,22,23,24,25,26,27 Rottweiler,15,18,22,24,25,28 Jack Russell Terrier,21,25,26 and others (Chow Chow,7,23 Spaniel,14,26 Collie,3,29 Saint Bernard,20 and Labrador Retriever2).

If you consider only the much smaller number of cases that resulted in very severe injuries or fatalities,21,23 pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified. However this may relate to the popularity of the breed in the victim's community, reporting biases and the dog's treatment by its owner (e.g., use as fighting dogs21). It is worth noting that fatal dog attacks in some areas of Canada are attributed mainly to sled dogs and Siberian Huskies,56 presumably due to the regional prevalence of these breeds. See Table 1 for a summary of breed data related to bite injuries.





I saw that. I just wanted to point out that there are more factors than just the breed. And that dogbite website is biased as hell.
I'd say around these parts pits and pit mixes are the most prevalent breed, at least in dogs weighing more than 40lbs.
And I know I damn sure wouldn't want to get attacked by a pit they have some big ass heads

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494388
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Originally Posted by Skinny

That is sad news. Ain't but about 5-6 minutes drive time from my house. That is a little dirt road with some damned derelict looking trailers.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494401
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I use to hear stories about the mob running Phenix City. Y'all ever hear anything like that? This was back in the day.


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: goodman_hunter] #3494405
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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
I use to hear stories about the mob running Phenix City. Y'all ever hear anything like that? This was back in the day.


Back in the 50's Phenix City was a rough place which is where that reputation came from. You can read about the Albert Patterson story here. He was a strong politician that got assassinated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Patterson


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494494
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Yeah my granddad is referenced in “The Phenix City Story”.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494496
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Phenix city is so dark you need a damn flashlight to see

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: MorningAir] #3494538
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Originally Posted by MorningAir
For real. Every time a pit or Rottweiler kill somebody or attack the owners ALWAYS say “ that’s the first time my dogs ever acted like that “. It’s like they’ve brainwashed their self to think the dog lost all its bred instincts to kill at will just because it’s their dog.

Rottweiler and pits don't even come close to belonging is same conversation.im on my third rott and my lab and my black mouth cur I had where definitely more likely to bite someone.rotts sit back and watch whenever they encounter trouble they back up to protect the homes door or the owner they are not aggressive until provoked or put into a corner and forced to protect.yes they are intimidating but that's just looks and a big bark.
Rotts are very laid back easy going and easy to train dog.very level headed.
Very loyal and great pets for people with children.you never have to worry about a rott trying to eat your food or being aggressive period they do t even bark as much as most breads especially Shepard's and other so called protection dogs.mine is house pet and kept in fence cause stupid people are scared of dogs and if someone hurt him I'm cause he looks mean and grown men are cowards I would phuck them up just like it was my only son period.my rott is hell of a better than 99.9% of people..my dogs father was multi champion shutzhuned which basically means trained to attack police type work trained in Montenegro and Serbia and he is not aggressive nor was any of his siblings your just ignorant...

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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494584
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I second Rottweilers are smart protective dogs.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494690
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Most people see a dog attack they immediately call it a pit whether it is or not. More times than not its some sort of mix. My parents have owned multiple Rottweilers and ive had red nose pit bulls. All have been great dogs. Never had any kind of problem. Its all in how they are raised. Both are great dog breeds!!


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494780
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We need background checks and training for people to own assault animals. And maybe only own assault dogs with 2 legs so they can’t do so much killing in a short time before the police come to save us all. Or maybe limit the dogs to only having 1 tooth. Who needs a dog with 30 teeth anyway? Maybe 2 teeth so it can eat. I hunt with a dog with 1 tooth. That’s all paw paw ever had around the farm, was 1 and 2 teeth dogs. If this saves just 1 human life it’s worth it all.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494901
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I hear you 3%, I got a half rot and omc. Loving dog. But is a squirrel treeing machine. Minds better than most kids.

Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Skinny] #3494936
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I mean seriously let's be real and not make this any harder than what it is. Just look at a pit bull. They even look retarded. They are ignorant inbred dogs, bred to fight. What do you expect? That's why they just lose it one day and snap. Because they are mentally unstable. They aren't bred to be smart and serve a useful purpose. Get a German Shepherd if you want a real dog...😁

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Bad thing with the pits most the time they are cheap or free and people who can barely take care of themselves get them and put them in the yard to fend for their selves.sucks they depend on humans to take care of them and these thugs and white trash people take on the responsibility with zero intention to take care of the animal.but heck people die from all kinds of crap every day and dogs attacks are few and far.pitbull ain't exactly a grizzly bear!lol
My pets are my family and I take better care of everyone in my family better than I do myself.

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410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife
"410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife" https://aonmag.com/hunting/410-pound-alabama-wild-boar-knife/


Hey Andulusia
Let's do a social experiment. Since you seem like an alright guy. I'll take it easy on ya. And it being your first time and all, I want it to be special. What type of dog is in the picture? The rest of y'all can join in if you like.

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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Jakethesnake] #3495279
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
I mean seriously let's be real and not make this any harder than what it is. Just look at a pit bull. They even look retarded. They are ignorant inbred dogs, bred to fight. What do you expect? That's why they just lose it one day and snap. Because they are mentally unstable. They aren't bred to be smart and serve a useful purpose. Get a German Shepherd if you want a real dog...😁



I hope you're not serious. lol
https://www.newsweek.com/pit-bull-myths-facts-history-dogs-pets-1567290


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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: goodman_hunter] #3495304
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410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife
"410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife" https://aonmag.com/hunting/410-pound-alabama-wild-boar-knife/


Hey Andulusia
Let's do a social experiment. Since you seem like an alright guy. I'll take it easy on ya. And it being your first time and all, I want it to be special. What type of dog is in the picture? The rest of y'all can join in if you like.


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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife
"410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife" https://aonmag.com/hunting/410-pound-alabama-wild-boar-knife/


Hey Andulusia
Let's do a social experiment. Since you seem like an alright guy. I'll take it easy on ya. And it being your first time and all, I want it to be special. What type of dog is in the picture? The rest of y'all can join in if you like.


I see two dogs, a hound-mix and what looks like a red pit.

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Re: Man killed by dog attack Phenix City [Re: Lonster] #3495935
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Originally Posted by Lonster
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife
"410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife" https://aonmag.com/hunting/410-pound-alabama-wild-boar-knife/


Hey Andulusia
Let's do a social experiment. Since you seem like an alright guy. I'll take it easy on ya. And it being your first time and all, I want it to be special. What type of dog is in the picture? The rest of y'all can join in if you like.


I see two dogs, a hound-mix and what looks like a red pit.

good answer and a keen eye counselor. I'll give it another day or two, cause so far your the only one with enough courage to throw your hat in the ring.


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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
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410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife
"410-Pound Alabama Wild Boar Taken With Knife" https://aonmag.com/hunting/410-pound-alabama-wild-boar-knife/


Hey Andulusia
Let's do a social experiment. Since you seem like an alright guy. I'll take it easy on ya. And it being your first time and all, I want it to be special. What type of dog is in the picture? The rest of y'all can join in if you like.


I see two dogs, a hound-mix and what looks like a red pit.

good answer and a keen eye counselor. I'll give it another day or two, cause so far your the only one with enough courage to throw your hat in the ring.


Talking about the dogs in the first picture?
I had to look for a few minutes to even find the second one, no way I could make a guess on breed.
I would call the other a bloodhound mix if I had to call it something.

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there really isn't a right or wrong answer to the question. Guess folks thought Goodman done laid some sort of trap, when in actuality I asked a question so simple anyone on here could of answered it. The answer is a Hog dog or more specifically a trail and bay dog. Props to the two guys that ventured a guess, hound dog would be an acceptable answer as well.


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