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Stock market what do y'all think #3471746
08/25/21 09:55 AM
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coldtrail Offline OP
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What are the odds the stock market, Nasdaq and Dow will average 8% over the next 10 to 15 years? It doesn't mean it that we won't have a flat or negative year, but over time average is what I'm asking.


"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471760
08/25/21 10:17 AM
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Sure has gone flat since January.... wondering what changed. slap


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On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471766
08/25/21 10:24 AM
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7-9% when using index funds is what I plan on seeing over the next 30 years.
For most, the biggest future unknowns will be taxes & the cost of health care.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: Bustinbeards] #3471767
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Flat since Jan? I'm up about 15% YTD in a conservative portfolio. Up 50-60 % from the covid bottom

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: Bustinbeards] #3471777
08/25/21 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
Sure has gone flat since January.... wondering what changed. slap


Dow is up 15% YTD
S&P 18%
NASDAQ 16.5%

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: AU7MM08] #3471805
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
7-9% when using index funds is what I plan on seeing over the next 30 years.
For most, the biggest future unknowns will be taxes & the cost of health care.


A lot of investment folks are forecasting 5-7% average over the next decade. There has to be a huge correction soon, which will be good for the long-term IMO. Just have the expectation of 5-7% average over the next many years, and if AU7MM08 is right, you'll have extra.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: ronfromramer] #3471814
08/25/21 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Flat since Jan? I'm up about 15% YTD in a conservative portfolio. Up 50-60 % from the covid bottom


Hell, I’m up more than 30%

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471821
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I am up over 15% in my account for work. It's not like it was during the Trump administration, and there is no telling where it would be if he had been re-elected.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: ronfromramer] #3471822
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Flat since Jan? I'm up about 15% YTD in a conservative portfolio. Up 50-60 % from the covid bottom

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471826
08/25/21 11:19 AM
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My entire portfolio is up 11% YTD. I'm only 60% invested in stocks though.


"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471833
08/25/21 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by coldtrail
My entire portfolio is up 11% YTD. I'm only 60% invested in stocks though.


With a 66%/33% mix the Wellington fund has done 8.44% as the historic average since 7/1/1929.
https://investor.vanguard.com/mutual-funds/profile/overview/vwelx

So given the nearly 100years of history, 8%+/- would seem to be a reasonable expectation over the next 10-15years.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: cullbuck] #3471837
08/25/21 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cullbuck
A lot of investment folks are forecasting 5-7% average over the next decade.
5% is the number I am using in my retirement calculator


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471852
08/25/21 11:46 AM
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You should be able to get solid returns via Dividend stocks. There is nothing wrong with that strategy either and in my opinion more stability. Way too many out there have figured out the Stock Market = Legalized Gambling and treat it as such. You are supposed to be investing in companies but market investors don't do much of that any longer. Everything is speculation currently because the Fed's actions. That's why you are about to see a floater. That turd is riding right below the surface at about neutral buoyancy.


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Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471893
08/25/21 12:46 PM
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With the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury continuing to print fiat money wide open and the Federal Government borrowing and spending like no tomorrow the stock market is the only place to invest money other then land.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: ronfromramer] #3471916
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Flat since Jan? I'm up about 15% YTD in a conservative portfolio. Up 50-60 % from the covid bottom

I agree. I’m up 22% since January 1.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: Goatkiller] #3471949
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
You should be able to get solid returns via Dividend stocks. There is nothing wrong with that strategy either and in my opinion more stability. Way too many out there have figured out the Stock Market = Legalized Gambling and treat it as such. You are supposed to be investing in companies but market investors don't do much of that any longer. Everything is speculation currently because the Fed's actions. That's why you are about to see a floater. That turd is riding right below the surface at about neutral buoyancy.


Hedge funds are making a killing short selling stocks. They can literally ruin a company.

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: Bustinbeards] #3471959
08/25/21 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
Sure has gone flat since January.... wondering what changed. slap

Not sure why you’re saying it’s going flat since January I’ve been making bank, somebody giving you bad info

Last edited by kodiak06; 08/25/21 02:23 PM.
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471982
08/25/21 02:53 PM
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I'm up pretty good since January.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: coldtrail] #3471993
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Up 34%

Re: Stock market what do y'all think [Re: Lockjaw] #3472004
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I am up over 15% in my account for work. It's not like it was during the Trump administration, and there is no telling where it would be if he had been re-elected.



We are on track this year to beat any year Trump was in office.

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