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Dominant gobblers
#3372804
03/15/21 06:05 PM
03/15/21 06:05 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189 South Alabama
gobbler
OP
12 point
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OP
12 point
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,189
South Alabama
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If there is such a concern about killing dominant gobblers before Ap 15, why would you have a youth season before regular season? Also, wonder if those pushing the closure of season before incubation peak (mid April) will hold off themselves and neither kill one or call one up for someone else before peak nest incubation. If the future of our turkey population is at stake like they say, they should be leading by example! Just sayin' Carry on
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: gobbler]
#3372899
03/15/21 08:06 PM
03/15/21 08:06 PM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 11,002 Earth
TDog93
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Earth
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Jakes can breed if that’s what’s left on property
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: gobbler]
#3372914
03/15/21 08:23 PM
03/15/21 08:23 PM
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Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 5,588 Lee County, Alabama
dBmV
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,588
Lee County, Alabama
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It's asinine to say that a hen will only breed with the dominant gobbler in any given area. It's also asinine to say that peak breeding is the same time all over the state. Peak breading ain't the same in Jackson county as it is in Baldwin county.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: gobbler]
#3373037
03/15/21 10:14 PM
03/15/21 10:14 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494 Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
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10 point
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So, if I got this straight. When the dominant gobbler gets killed no other male turkeys breeds the hens, so the hens don't produce any offspring that year?? How does the dominate gobbler breed hens that aren't in the group of hens he is with?? I'm thinking Chuckie and the CABbies need to go to a singles bar to do some research on how males and females pair off for the evening. All of the guys (or gobblers if you will) don't sit around watching just one guy swoop in get a hot female (hen if you will) breed her. Then run back in and repeat the process while the Guys (other gobblers) and other females (other hens) just sit around waiting for the one strutter to grace their presence. Chuckie and the CABbies need to go back for sex ed classes.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: gobbler]
#3373059
03/15/21 10:52 PM
03/15/21 10:52 PM
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 838 Cantonment,Fl
hyco
6 point
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6 point
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Cantonment,Fl
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The Dr.Turkey guy said most sub dominate and Jake’s don’t have swimmers to fertilize a hen. They are more than able to do the act but are shooting blanks. That’s what he said on a radio interview in Mobile.
take your kids hunting and you won't be hunting your kids
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: hyco]
#3373065
03/15/21 11:26 PM
03/15/21 11:26 PM
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Posts: 264 God's Country
Swampdrummin
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4 point
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The Dr.Turkey guy said most sub dominate and Jake’s don’t have swimmers to fertilize a hen. They are more than able to do the act but are shooting blanks. That’s what he said on a radio interview in Mobile. He’ll say anything to get on the radio or a podcast. Most of the pine ridge merriams genetics came from a group of stocked turkeys that only had a couple of jakes. Flock went from a couple dozens to hundreds in a few years. Started getting it done that first year. He has no research to support either one of those statements. If you listen carefully nearly everything he portrays as a fact is cached is with a sneaky “what we are thinking” several paragraphs before.
Quack quack.
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: Swampdrummin]
#3373066
03/15/21 11:35 PM
03/15/21 11:35 PM
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Posts: 838 Cantonment,Fl
hyco
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The Dr.Turkey guy said most sub dominate and Jake’s don’t have swimmers to fertilize a hen. They are more than able to do the act but are shooting blanks. That’s what he said on a radio interview in Mobile. He’ll say anything to get on the radio or a podcast. Most of the pine ridge merriams genetics came from a group of stocked turkeys that only had a couple of jakes. Flock went from a couple dozens to hundreds in a few years. Started getting it done that first year. He has no research to support either one of those statements. If you listen carefully nearly everything he portrays as a fact is cached is with a sneaky “what we are thinking” several paragraphs before. oh I don’t believe him. I was just saying what he said as referring to some of the post about Jake’s breeding. According to his line of thinking. There should not be any turkeys on hard hunted public land. If Ole boss keeps getting killed opening weekend for a few years then they gonna run out of turkeys. That don’t make sense to me
take your kids hunting and you won't be hunting your kids
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Re: Dominant gobblers
[Re: gobbler]
#3373133
03/16/21 07:12 AM
03/16/21 07:12 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,104 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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If there is such a concern about killing dominant gobblers before Ap 15, why would you have a youth season before regular season? Also, wonder if those pushing the closure of season before incubation peak (mid April) will hold off themselves and neither kill one or call one up for someone else before peak nest incubation. If the future of our turkey population is at stake like they say, they should be leading by example! Just sayin' Carry on That makes a lot of sense. I've always said that if the turkeys on our place drop enough in number that I think hunting them could harm the flock, I wouldn't need the state to tell me to back off; I would make that decision myself. If Mr. Sykes and others really believe it's harmful to hunt before 4/15, then they should lead the way and restrain from hunting until then. It will be interesting to see if that happens. It would be the height of hypocrisy for him to try to force the late date on the entire state if he is in the woods Saturday morning.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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