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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: 257wbymag]
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02/11/21 08:31 PM
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Mhkodiak
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Posts: 340
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Covid has made many sales folks lazier. I like to handle things laid back low pressure on my end. It’s been working. I’m here for my customers 24/7. They know that. My numbers show if I been working or not This. COVID is an excuse to a point. I’m seeing more excuses why outside salesman are losing business. If you have a relationship with the end user there are ways to maintain it. Texts, phone calls, emails and a tail gate meeting at a job site will go along way to show customers you are there for them. At the end of the month the numbers don’t lie.
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: Goatkiller]
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02/11/21 08:31 PM
02/11/21 08:31 PM
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ford150man
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Some industries won’t support a 25% salary and 75% commission. Usually it’s high dollar, large items that a sale takes a really long time. I worked in an industry like this once. It was mostly relationship building with each customer maybe making one or two purchases a year. I agree with what was said above about spending more and more time filling out paperwork or entering information. I hate it but do it because it’s expected. My biggest complaint though about it is when management tells us it will help us be more organized and make more money, when in reality it’s so they have information should we leave the company. If they think we are stupid enough to believe it’s for our own good, then we are too stupid to do our jobs.
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: Goatkiller]
#3349856
02/11/21 09:14 PM
02/11/21 09:14 PM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,183 Central to South AL
Stickers
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8 point
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There is probably a CRM specific to your industry. CRM for our industry is what we use. Serious/ Hi performing sales folks won't use it seriously/completely. Under performers will game it. Result is the information you expected to get from your Outside sales mgmt tool is always flawed. Always. Outside of a company truck, my compensation is just enough to cover my annual health ins premiums. I am 95% commission. Company does have 5 holidays, but we get no vacation. Any structure where over 30-40% of compensation is straight salary, isn't a true sales job. It is a " I can fake this long enough to find something else " job. Our company decided to use good Regional Sales managers to "inspect what they expect". Joint calls, updates on deals you are working. They use "pipeline management" - we turn in a pipeline with % chance to close ( 40%/70%/95%). BS gets exposed pretty quick. Strong consistent performance is rewarded with an ownership interest in the company.If the pipeline or prospects never change much, those people get weeded out pretty quick.
Hire for character, train for skill and your folks will take care of your business and you. If a prospective hire is more interested in salary / comp plans / vacation than rather than insurance and what he is selling, that person probably isn't what you need. Just my .02 based on being in sales / business development for 25+ years.
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: Goatkiller]
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02/12/21 12:01 AM
02/12/21 12:01 AM
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Posts: 25,131 Guntersville, AL
IDOT
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I am Cornholio
Joined: Dec 2004
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Guntersville, AL
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I need to keep better tabs on what my outside sales people are doing daily. Ask them to show you what "Their" daily routine/plan is. If they don't have a plan, they aren't working. Know the territory as well or better than the reps themselves. This cuts down on the BS and allows you to better manage/direct your force to where their time can be better spent. Weekly meetings are great, but they need to be very focused. What did you accomplish from last week and what are you doing next week. Make sure they are good at web based meetings such as GoToMeeting, Teams etc. There is no excuse for them to not be in front of customers with the technology available today. If the reps can't get a customers attention now, then they didn't have it pre-covid either.
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: IDOT]
#3350008
02/12/21 05:49 AM
02/12/21 05:49 AM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,182 Chilton
Powpow65
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10 point
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I need to keep better tabs on what my outside sales people are doing daily. Ask them to show you what "Their" daily routine/plan is. If they don't have a plan, they aren't working. Know the territory as well or better than the reps themselves. This cuts down on the BS and allows you to better manage/direct your force to where their time can be better spent. Weekly meetings are great, but they need to be very focused. What did you accomplish from last week and what are you doing next week. Make sure they are good at web based meetings such as GoToMeeting, Teams etc. There is no excuse for them to not be in front of customers with the technology available today. If the reps can't get a customers attention now, then they didn't have it pre-covid either. Yep and you don't even have to have an app or a specialized computer program. Just have them make a schedule/plan for the next week that they send you every Friday with detailed notes about all the prospects/cold calls and current customers. I'd just make the slackers do it. Then just follow up on one or two and catch them lying about what they have been doing
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: 257wbymag]
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02/12/21 09:20 PM
02/12/21 09:20 PM
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Posts: 14 Central
GaryConrad
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Here are my thoughts, some of which you didn’t ask for. I’ve been in outside sales for 19 years. We use an app that’s written specifically for our company so, telling you the name of it would be useless. I’ve always been of the opinion that my sales numbers speak for themselves as to whether or not I’m working. The covid excuse only goes so far. Covid has made many sales folks lazier. I like to handle things laid back low pressure on my end. It’s been working. I’m here for my customers 24/7. They know that. My numbers show if I been working or not Exactly this.. I have worked as a sales manager and an outside salesman for years. The way my company judges sales people on their progress is how many units are sold. It is straight commission mostly, and the slower markets do have a salary with a reduced commission option. CRM and call reports do not work. CRM just helps make management feel good if there is activity on it and give sales people an excuse to be in thee office when they should be in front of prospects. It can also be manipulated, as can sales call reports. The reason people are in sales is so they have the freedom in their schedule, and usually an opportunity to have unlimited income potential. Sounds like you need to look at your hiring practices, or incentivize your pay plan so you build a team of winners. Company culture also goes a long way. It is really that simple.
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Re: Outside Sales management tools
[Re: GaryConrad]
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02/13/21 11:06 AM
02/13/21 11:06 AM
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Ol’Tom
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Here are my thoughts, some of which you didn’t ask for. I’ve been in outside sales for 19 years. We use an app that’s written specifically for our company so, telling you the name of it would be useless. I’ve always been of the opinion that my sales numbers speak for themselves as to whether or not I’m working. The covid excuse only goes so far. Covid has made many sales folks lazier. I like to handle things laid back low pressure on my end. It’s been working. I’m here for my customers 24/7. They know that. My numbers show if I been working or not Exactly this.. I have worked as a sales manager and an outside salesman for years. The way my company judges sales people on their progress is how many units are sold. It is straight commission mostly, and the slower markets do have a salary with a reduced commission option. CRM and call reports do not work. CRM just helps make management feel good if there is activity on it and give sales people an excuse to be in thee office when they should be in front of prospects. It can also be manipulated, as can sales call reports. The reason people are in sales is so they have the freedom in their schedule, and usually an opportunity to have unlimited income potential. Sounds like you need to look at your hiring practices, or incentivize your pay plan so you build a team of winners. Company culture also goes a long way. It is really that simple. I’ve done outside sales for 30+ years I’ve seen it all, I think. These three men are giving you the goods. Micro management don’t work for me or most successful sales people I know. It’s tough developing new talent and there’s a place for salary + commission with new people but I think 100% commission sales with unlimited earning potential is what drives the best and there numbers will show it. SFDC is a great sales tool if used the right way. I’ve never seen any CRM platform that works or is worth the money. IMHO
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