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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: CNC]
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12/29/20 05:48 PM
12/29/20 05:48 PM
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Alabaster, Al
Buck_TrackingAL
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Alabaster, Al
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You know the funny or not so funny thing I guess about all of this data is that above all else what they really need is “trending data”…….Which in essence means that they just hit the reset button when they started making the processors record the hunter’s number and sich…….Just like Matt said…..”The numbers are WAY different than they were last year”……..Participation has changed but it tells us nothing really about the deer until we create a new trend line…..correct? Which means that as long as they continue to tinker with participation and never let it remain a “constant” then we’ll still be hitting the reset until we get to some place where they are happy and then let it ride for a while. Number of dead deer just tells you how many dead deer you have, tells nothing of the remaining deer herd. Only gives a piece of the puzzle.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: jwalker77]
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12/29/20 05:53 PM
12/29/20 05:53 PM
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Posts: 664
Georgia
ALclearcut
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Georgia
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"only 10 deer were reported and we know thats only 45% of the number that was killed". So if you know the answer why ask the question? Exactly. He's banging his head against a wall with no proof that compliance is anywhere near as low as 30%. He wanted data and the data is saying that there are a lot less deer getting killed than his own "kill more does" strategy for this state can justify. So instead of admitting the deer population is too low in most of the state, he blames "lazy" and "paranoid" hunters for not using his app enough.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3307188
12/30/20 04:51 AM
12/30/20 04:51 AM
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Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,399
Sylvania Alabama
Sandmtnslayer
10 point
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Sylvania Alabama
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If they really wanna fix this and make it easier why dint alabama go to a tag system like other states
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Buck_TrackingAL]
#3307318
12/30/20 09:57 AM
12/30/20 09:57 AM
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Posts: 21,766
Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
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Awbarn, AL
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Number of dead deer just tells you how many dead deer you have, tells nothing of the remaining deer herd. Only gives a piece of the puzzle.
A “trend line” does though…….Let’s say we keep up with it for ten years and in that time every year shows roughly 100K deer killed…..give or take a few thousand……Well, that tells us that there are at least enough live deer in the woods to support us killing 100K annually…..That’s a “sustained yield”…..If numbers are on a steady decline then it tells you we are killing more than the herd can support or that possibly hunter attitudes are changing, etc......You need the participation to remain fairly constant though in order to be able to accurately see that I do believe
Last edited by CNC; 12/30/20 09:58 AM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: OlTimer]
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12/30/20 10:27 AM
12/30/20 10:27 AM
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Posts: 36,187
alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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alabama
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You younger guys really missed out when hunting was fun. We had a tremendous deer herd in the 70's and killed some fine bucks. A lot of soybeans, you shot very few if any does, a buck a day, liked the folks that made/enforced the common sense rules, etc. There were some BIG bucks killed and no social media. A few pictures would be at the feed store and everybody knew how to process a deer. There were NO deer processing places. You had a few butchers that would cut and wrap. Good times. this^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/30/20 10:40 AM
12/30/20 10:40 AM
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Posts: 20,095
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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He’s such a condescending asshole. exactly, at some point he needs to look in the mirror and consider "maybe it's me"....maybe there's been so much push back from the general public because of the way HE has presented it, the way HE has talked down to literally EVERYONE about it and the way HE is such a smug, condescending douchebag. The line about him being "poor" and in the same sentence talking about hunting out of state for 20yrs is just peak douchebaggery. I dislike that guy more than just about anyone on this planet.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: GomerPyle]
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12/30/20 10:42 AM
12/30/20 10:42 AM
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Posts: 34,458
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 34,458
Boxes Cove
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He’s such a condescending asshole. exactly, at some point he needs to look in the mirror and consider "maybe it's me"....maybe there's been so much push back from the general public because of the way HE has presented it, the way HE has talked down to literally EVERYONE about it and the way HE is such a smug, condescending douchebag. The line about him being "poor" and in the same sentence talking about hunting out of state for 20yrs is just peak douchebaggery. I dislike that guy more than just about anyone on this planet. Ditto.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 11:03 AM
12/30/20 11:03 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,766
Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
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Awbarn, AL
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It would probably be a really good way of doing things if hunters were all robots…….It’s the human relations aspect of it that’s killing them……Now they’re going with the strategy of trying to strong arm the "rebels" of Alabama……You’ve picked the most stubborn group that’s most likely to dig their heels in to try and force something upon…..bad skrategy in my opion.
I honestly think I could come up with a system that would work taking all things into consideration……Unfortunately though the reality of that happening is no better than just pipe dreaming
Last edited by CNC; 12/30/20 11:04 AM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 12:02 PM
12/30/20 12:02 PM
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Posts: 36,187
alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 36,187
alabama
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the fastest, easiest, and maybe cheapest way is the way the Feds do their H.I.P. cards. You have to enter last years data to get this years card. 100% compliance on data being entered...and no damn criminal prosecutions. Data is a year out but Chucks data is so far or worse. This way was recommended at the first but Chuck said no, he had a better way. Pffffft.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/30/20 12:50 PM
12/30/20 12:50 PM
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Posts: 11,358
Kennedy, al
globe
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Booner
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Posts: 11,358
Kennedy, al
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We’ve game checked all of ours. Only prob was we had to uninstall and reinstall the app.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/30/20 03:19 PM
12/30/20 03:19 PM
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Posts: 3,996
Central AL
March15
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Posts: 3,996
Central AL
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Just an FYI, that article is over 2 years old. It’s not recent. This years GC numbers have already exceeded that of the entire season last year. With the rut just beginning or still a few weeks out for 2/3 of the state that number is going to blow last years harvest out of the water. Where can the public go to see the numbers for this year?
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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12/30/20 05:03 PM
12/30/20 05:03 PM
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Posts: 4,419
FL
mw2015
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FL
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3307793
12/30/20 06:24 PM
12/30/20 06:24 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,766
Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,766
Awbarn, AL
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Here’s my new proposal for when I become king………  StatewideOct 1 - Feb10..... ..Bow (Either Sex) Oct 1-10..... ...... ....Muzzleloader (Buck Only) Feb 1-10 ..............Muzzleloader (Buck Only) Nov 18 - Dec 25….Rifle Season (“Doe Days” implemented in certain counties) No Does Statewide until Nov 1……. That’s it…..no game check, no three buck limit, nothing to fill out after killing a deer
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We dont rent pigs
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