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Bucks that don’t shed velvet #3243969
10/17/20 11:24 PM
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North Alabama
BamaStrapAssassi Offline OP
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I’ve got a buck that I have tried to kill for a couple years now and he doesn’t shed his velvet. I’ve yet to see him show any signs of rut behavior and i’m curious if there may be a testosterone issue that keeps his horns from hardening as well as keeps him from breeding / chasing does?
Any Insights/experience on these bucks and there rut behavior is appreciated.

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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3243974
10/17/20 11:36 PM
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Might have had his balls ripped off somehow. It happens. After that they don't shed

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3243987
10/18/20 12:54 AM
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May be a doe . I got a bil that killed a 9 point doe that scored 126

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244012
10/18/20 06:16 AM
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We have a doe on our place with velvet antlers and a fawn.....seen her for 2 seasons now
Her name is Kaitlin


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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: deadeye48] #3244027
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
We have a doe on our place with velvet antlers and a fawn.....seen her for 2 seasons now
Her name is Kaitlin

Kaitlin rofl



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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244035
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Like jwalker said that buck doesnt have nuts


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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244044
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He ain't got the balls to do it...


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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244046
10/18/20 07:41 AM
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I killed a buck last year that was still in velvet, for whatever reason he always shed his velvet really late, like end of October early November. Everything was in tact on him. I had a buddy who killed an 8 point years ago that had no berries!


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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244124
10/18/20 09:51 AM
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I shot a buck one time that had no tail. Not even a nub.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: jwalker77] #3244463
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Might have had his balls ripped off somehow. It happens. After that they don't shed


Not true at all. Seen a few with twig, no berries - funky racks but no velvet. I killed one of them about 20 years ago in Pickens County.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244484
10/18/20 08:45 PM
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Deer that don’t shed or shed late typically don’t have the proper hormonal balance to trigger those changes at the right time. Some times it’s an injury to the testicles or having both male and female genitalia.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: turkey247] #3244501
10/18/20 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Might have had his balls ripped off somehow. It happens. After that they don't shed


Not true at all. Seen a few with twig, no berries - funky racks but no velvet. I killed one of them about 20 years ago in Pickens County.

It does happen. I didn't say every time.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244684
10/19/20 08:50 AM
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Buddy killed one of these few year back, lots of points really funky, no balls.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3244890
10/19/20 12:48 PM
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I was in CO with a good friend and his Dad and he killed a mule deer that was a 3x9 with a big club for a drop tine. Weird looking rack Guide said they call them cactus bucks. He had a sack but no nuts. He also said they are real reclusive and do not run with the other deer. Guide also said most of the time they do not get that big because not being in a herd they are more vulnerable to predators.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3245165
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Round ‘bout there
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Cryptorchidism is the absence of one or both testes from the scrotum. Bucks may not, or usually won't, shed velvet if they have this condition.

Cryptorchidism can happen in humans, too. --- https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/undescended-testicle/symptoms-causes/syc-20351995


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Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3245947
10/21/20 06:07 AM
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I Killed a velvet antlered doe once.

Re: Bucks that don’t shed velvet [Re: BamaStrapAssassi] #3246052
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A buddy of mine killed a hermaphrodite once and it was in full velvet in late January.


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