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Only 9K have died of Covid-19 #3205039
08/30/20 09:40 AM
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The CDC has updated stats and only 9K plus actually died because of covid-19 nation wide

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/...KwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205056
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not an expert here at all, but I think you might be reading that chart wrong..

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205065
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Probably

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205078
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What they said is, only 9,000+ that died of covid didn’t have other underlying health issues.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205080
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Thing to notice in there is that out of all the deaths, only 6% of those listed Covid as the only cause. The other 94% of deaths have additional comorbidities with the average having 2.6 additional comorbidities contributing to the death. Truth be known, and due to full autopsies not being performed in the majority of cases, it wouldn’t surprise me if 90% of the 6% actually had “unknown” or undisclosed comorbidities contributing to those deaths too. If you’re healthy and younger than 65, it’s probably not as deadly as the normal flu. If you’re older or have obvious comorbidities, you need to take every precaution you can.

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Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: doekiller] #3205083
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Originally Posted by doekiller
What they said is, only 9,000+ that died of covid didn’t have other underlying health issues.


Yeah good friend of mines MNL (54) died a few weeks ago in the hospital from the virus, and she had no major heath issues. But now her husband on the other hand, has had some serious heath issues for the past 3 or 4 years, and he only spent 2 days in the Hospital with the virus, and was able to go home and is doing good.


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Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: abolt300] #3205090
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Thing to notice in there is that out of all the deaths, only 6% of those listed Covid as the only cause. The other 94% of deaths have additional comorbidities with the average having 2.6 additional comorbidities contributing to the death. Truth be known, and due to full autopsies not being performed in the majority of cases, it wouldn’t surprise me if 90% of the 6% actually had “unknown” or undisclosed comorbidities contributing to those deaths too. If you’re healthy and younger than 65, it’s probably not as deadly as the normal flu. If you’re older or have obvious comorbidities, you need to take every precaution you can.


Yeah, I have thought the same. When is the last time any of us have been scanned head to toe for every possible hidden health issue.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: James] #3205130
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by doekiller
What they said is, only 9,000+ that died of covid didn’t have other underlying health issues.


Yeah good friend of mines MNL (54) died a few weeks ago in the hospital from the virus, and she had no major heath issues. But now her husband on the other hand, has had some serious heath issues for the past 3 or 4 years, and he only spent 2 days in the Hospital with the virus, and was able to go home and is doing good.


I don't want to sound unsympathetic at all. God bless that family. I do want to say however that there are a lot of people who have serious health issues that are just oblivious to it. Americans in particular consider themselves in great shape when they are in very poor shape. If you can't jog a mile or walk 5 without nearly dying,you have health issues. If you can't do 10 good sit ups and push ups ,you have health issues. Most Americans are 40 or more lbs overweight and get zero exercise other than a trip to Walmart outside their regular job. We don't think about being in bad health because the whole country is in bad health and overweight. It's become the new standard. If you don't believe it ask yourself why schools no longer test kids on any athletic ability like we were in school.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205196
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Sounds reasonable. The problem is for those with underlying symptoms, sometimes serious underlying symptoms like a gunshot to the head, often those symptoms are not being written down or documented. If an underlying symptom was present before covid and contributed to death, that symptom should be credited equally.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: jwalker77] #3205214
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Sounds reasonable. The problem is for those with underlying symptoms, sometimes serious underlying symptoms like a gunshot to the head, often those symptoms are not being written down or documented. If an underlying symptom was present before covid and contributed to death, that symptom should be credited equally.

There has definitely been a concerted effort to inflate the number of deaths,and the number infected as well.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205234
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who doesn't have health issues. Ive been noticing around here they actually try to under report covid deaths. as time goes by we will see more people around us die and survive, and will have a better personal grasp on what covid is. I think its less contagious than originally thought but everything else has been as expected

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: R_H_Clark] #3205288
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
If you can't jog a mile or walk 5 without nearly dying,you have health issues. If you can't do 10 good sit ups and push ups ,you have health issues. Most Americans are 40 or more lbs overweight and get zero exercise other than a trip to Walmart outside their regular job. We don't think about being in bad health because the whole country is in bad health and overweight.


I can do all those things x3 and some x5, AND 40 lbs overweight. I’ve wondered how it would affect me, but think I may have already had it.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205295
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Turkey247 there might have been alot of people who had it early on and thought it was just a cold or sinus problems. It was portrayed early on as something likely to kill you. In most cases, its not that way at all. I know my son had some kind of issues with his stomach and we were reluctant to say anything about it because everybody would automatically say "its the covid, stay away". I figure there were probably alot of people who had it and kept it to themselves. I personally know of many people who have been sick lately and kept it really quiet because they didnt want to be judged. Some of which did have the covid. They didnt lie about it or risk others health, they just stayed at home to themselves till it was over.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: jwalker77] #3205308
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Turkey247 there might have been alot of people who had it early on and thought it was just a cold or sinus problems. It was portrayed early on as something likely to kill you. In most cases, its not that way at all. I know my son had some kind of issues with his stomach and we were reluctant to say anything about it because everybody would automatically say "its the covid, stay away". I figure there were probably alot of people who had it and kept it to themselves. I personally know of many people who have been sick lately and kept it really quiet because they didnt want to be judged. Some of which did have the covid. They didnt lie about it or risk others health, they just stayed at home to themselves till it was over.


Yep. And being "scared" is why we'll continue to see more deaths, not because of covid, but because people are to afraid to go to the Dr. for small things and then they turn into big problems.


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Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205690
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Covid-19 might kill me tomorrow but I have spent a day fishing and another day golfing with a son that tested positive, shook hands and talked in close proximity for 15-20 minutes with someone that tested positive later that day and lived with and slept in the same bed for days with a wife that tested positive. If I caught it, I couldn’t tell it. In my experience, it ain’t the “boogeyman” they making it out to be.

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: JohnnyLoco] #3205698
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I hugged my cousins neck a week ago and his mom is staying at his house with covid, havent saw anybody around me catch it yet

Re: Only 9K have died of Covid-19 [Re: Simpleman] #3205707
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Originally Posted by Simpleman
Covid-19 might kill me tomorrow but I have spent a day fishing and another day golfing with a son that tested positive, shook hands and talked in close proximity for 15-20 minutes with someone that tested positive later that day and lived with and slept in the same bed for days with a wife that tested positive. If I caught it, I couldn’t tell it. In my experience, it ain’t the “boogeyman” they making it out to be.

I think thats a fine assessment of a situation derived from first hand experiences. Thats something a fellow can trust.


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