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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 09:59 PM
06/02/20 09:59 PM
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Posts: 35,443
Missouri
swamp_fever2002
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Administrator
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Posts: 35,443
Missouri
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Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who wish to harm me and mine.
Let not my last thought be “If only I had my gun”.
and Lord, if today is truly the day you are to call me home,
Let me die in a pile of brass.
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
#3136216
06/02/20 10:00 PM
06/02/20 10:00 PM
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Posts: 3,928
Woodstock
3% outdoorsman
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Posts: 3,928
Woodstock
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Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who wish to harm me and mine.
Let not my last thought be “If only I had my gun”.
and Lord, if today is truly the day you are to call me home,
Let me die in a pile of brass.
Amen brother
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
#3136221
06/02/20 10:03 PM
06/02/20 10:03 PM
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Posts: 6,631
Moulton,AL
Snuffy
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,631
Moulton,AL
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The key according to our trainer for our church security team. Make sure the responding officer Understands YOU were the victim and you were afraid for your life and the life of others.
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
#3136226
06/02/20 10:06 PM
06/02/20 10:06 PM
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Posts: 16,827
Banana Republic
jb20
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,827
Banana Republic
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Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who wish to harm me and mine.
Let not my last thought be “If only I had my gun”.
and Lord, if today is truly the day you are to call me home,
Let me die in a pile of brass.
One of my favorites 👍
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: hoggin]
#3136233
06/02/20 10:11 PM
06/02/20 10:11 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,762
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,762
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. YOU should not attempt to articulate anything. You’re attorney should handle that. The answer to any question prior to speaking to your attorney is “ I thought he/she/they were gonna kill me/them. It’s the lawyers job to sell/tell the story. good point. I should have said that you be able to articulate the events to your attorney and don't lie because you may have to repeat it to people very skilled at getting to the truth. Now certainly, if your lawyer thinks you are lying he's not going to let you testify but he can't tell your version for you if it is needed.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: 3% outdoorsman]
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06/03/20 12:35 AM
06/03/20 12:35 AM
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Posts: 4,717
You are ignoring this user
Thread Killer
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10 point
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 4,717
You are ignoring this user
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Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who wish to harm me and mine.
Let not my last thought be “If only I had my gun”.
and Lord, if today is truly the day you are to call me home,
Let me die in a pile of brass.
Amen brother !YES!
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
#3136556
06/03/20 11:42 AM
06/03/20 11:42 AM
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Posts: 9,166
B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,166
B'ham
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Yep.... stay safe and keep the safety off my friends.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Ant67]
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06/03/20 11:57 AM
06/03/20 11:57 AM
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Posts: 19,088
Chelsea, AL
straycat
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 19,088
Chelsea, AL
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Bottom line is you can’t kill somebody because they steal or destroy your property. But it doesn't preclude you from trying to stop them from stealing or destroying property, correct? And if during that process of protecting your property a legitimate perceived threat emerges, then you are not precluded from using deadly force, correct? Example: You see a guy trying to steal something from your driveway or carport...weedeater, mower, whatever. You intervene and guy doesn't flee but makes a move toward you with bad intentions. Doesn't that then get us back to the justified use of deadly force under threat and fear of safety or loss of life? Contrasted with...you see some guy stealing a weedeater and you just shoot him dead...no threat. These , at least to me, are the real life scenarios that happen with more frequency. Robbers and thieves and piddlers get confronted and it escalates.
Last edited by straycat; 06/03/20 11:58 AM.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: jawbone]
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06/03/20 12:11 PM
06/03/20 12:11 PM
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Posts: 18,050
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,050
North AL
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. YOU should not attempt to articulate anything. You’re attorney should handle that. The answer to any question prior to speaking to your attorney is “ I thought he/she/they were gonna kill me/them. It’s the lawyers job to sell/tell the story. good point. I should have said that you be able to articulate the events to your attorney and don't lie because you may have to repeat it to people very skilled at getting to the truth. Now certainly, if your lawyer thinks you are lying he's not going to let you testify but he can't tell your version for you if it is needed. This is why I always carry a gun and a phone. If I'm ever forced to use my gun, next thing I'm doing is calling my attorney.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: straycat]
#3136582
06/03/20 12:22 PM
06/03/20 12:22 PM
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Posts: 3,850
West Alabama
Ant67
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,850
West Alabama
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Bottom line is you can’t kill somebody because they steal or destroy your property. But it doesn't preclude you from trying to stop them from stealing or destroying property, correct? And if during that process of protecting your property a legitimate perceived threat emerges, then you are not precluded from using deadly force, correct? Example: You see a guy trying to steal something from your driveway or carport...weedeater, mower, whatever. You intervene and guy doesn't flee but makes a move toward you with bad intentions. Doesn't that then get us back to the justified use of deadly force under threat and fear of safety or loss of life? Contrasted with...you see some guy stealing a weedeater and you just shoot him dead...no threat. These , at least to me, are the real life scenarios that happen with more frequency. Robbers and thieves and piddlers get confronted and it escalates. You can not be the instigator and take advantage of stand your ground. Defense
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Ant67]
#3136588
06/03/20 12:39 PM
06/03/20 12:39 PM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,160
Opelika
noeyeddeer
6 point
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6 point
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,160
Opelika
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Bottom line is you can’t kill somebody because they steal or destroy your property. But it doesn't preclude you from trying to stop them from stealing or destroying property, correct? And if during that process of protecting your property a legitimate perceived threat emerges, then you are not precluded from using deadly force, correct? Example: You see a guy trying to steal something from your driveway or carport...weedeater, mower, whatever. You intervene and guy doesn't flee but makes a move toward you with bad intentions. Doesn't that then get us back to the justified use of deadly force under threat and fear of safety or loss of life? Contrasted with...you see some guy stealing a weedeater and you just shoot him dead...no threat. These , at least to me, are the real life scenarios that happen with more frequency. Robbers and thieves and piddlers get confronted and it escalates. You can not be the instigator and take advantage of stand your ground. Defense But are you the instigator if you are reacting to the robbery at hand and just happened to be armed? Say you hear a noise in your carport and are checking your property armed and the guy starts coming at you agressively? I don't see that as being the instigator but easily could be wrong.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: straycat]
#3136589
06/03/20 12:41 PM
06/03/20 12:41 PM
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Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 208
Alabama
gtaylor
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 208
Alabama
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Bottom line is you can’t kill somebody because they steal or destroy your property. But it doesn't preclude you from trying to stop them from stealing or destroying property, correct? And if during that process of protecting your property a legitimate perceived threat emerges, then you are not precluded from using deadly force, correct? Example: You see a guy trying to steal something from your driveway or carport...weedeater, mower, whatever. You intervene and guy doesn't flee but makes a move toward you with bad intentions. Doesn't that then get us back to the justified use of deadly force under threat and fear of safety or loss of life? Contrasted with...you see some guy stealing a weedeater and you just shoot him dead...no threat. These , at least to me, are the real life scenarios that happen with more frequency. Robbers and thieves and piddlers get confronted and it escalates. “He fired up my weed eater, (cranks first pull every time your honor), and came at my throat with it”
War Damn Eagle
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Ant67]
#3136592
06/03/20 12:44 PM
06/03/20 12:44 PM
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Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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Bottom line is you can’t kill somebody because they steal or destroy your property. Wanna bet?
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: AU338MAG]
#3136593
06/03/20 12:45 PM
06/03/20 12:45 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. YOU should not attempt to articulate anything. You’re attorney should handle that. The answer to any question prior to speaking to your attorney is “ I thought he/she/they were gonna kill me/them. It’s the lawyers job to sell/tell the story. good point. I should have said that you be able to articulate the events to your attorney and don't lie because you may have to repeat it to people very skilled at getting to the truth. Now certainly, if your lawyer thinks you are lying he's not going to let you testify but he can't tell your version for you if it is needed. This is why I always carry a gun and a phone. If I'm ever forced to use my gun, next thing I'm doing is calling my attorney. I carry a gun and a shovel.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
#3136598
06/03/20 12:50 PM
06/03/20 12:50 PM
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Posts: 12,704
behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Skinny’s Ex
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Skinny’s Ex
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,704
behind my Dillon
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Was taught to calm down breathe after event be polite,compliant and tell story as calmy quickly as possible then.....SHUTUP!
Only hits count.
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