ask him will it cause suffication and/or a fatal heartattack

And to some, it simply has to be the African American fault.

It's just damn sad is what it is.

It defintiely can cause or contribute to it, but did it? You dont know jack chit about the actual cause of death at this point and neither do I, or anyone else posting on this thread. Everyone has an opinion and you know what the old saying is about that. One news source says he had a pulse when EMS put hiim on the stretcher, two others sources cited by Clem say he was dead as a wedge when the officer got off him. That's why I said "if" in that post where I said it was reported he had a pulse. You cant trust anything coming from the media these days. It will all come out. Whether he died under the officers knee, whether the officer's knee being on him caused or contributed to his death, it will all come out with the autopsy and subsequent trial.

The only thing that I think we can all agree on at this point is that, from the full length video evidence, it does not appear that he was actively resisting arrest or that there was any reason for that officer to have his knee on him, especially after he was handcuffed. Patience grasshopper, the truth will eventually come out.

So tomorrow a man in downtown Montgomery sees his mother’s other son on the ground with a knee at his neck being held down while cuffed by a group of 4 LEO’s in the same manner. What’s there to dissuade his baser instincts from taking over causing him to implement any means necessary to extricate his brother?

This is the problem caused by both these heavy handed tactics and by the unwillingness of many perpetrators to just give up already when apprehended. The social norms are no longer being followed resulting in the bunker mentality of both the LEO’s, the criminal element, and the public at large.

Oh, he was wrong and he will go down for murder. I don't see any other way this can go. I just wish race didn't have to be the biggest factor in this. That is the sole reason this is in the news and people are rioting and looting.

The officer absolutely bears blame but Mr Floyd does too. If he had not committed a crime by uttering a forged document (most likely it will turn out to be he fraudulently endorsed a stolen check), ....he would have had no interaction with police whatsoever and the entire incident which has now cost someone their life and ruined countless other lives, started riots, caused property damage, and the entire incident would never have occured in the first place had he not broken the law to start it all.

It's not about black or white, at least it shouldnt be, but it seems that everything today has to have a racial component which is really really sad. We are all created equal and everyone should be treated with respect and all laws applied equally regardless of your skin color.

Thank you for some sense added to this thread. Have not heard of anyone in LE who has defended the the actions in the video.

The Minneapolis Fire Department report says he had no pulse.

Here's the report from the MFD:

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/public/@mpd/documents/webcontent/wcmsp-224680.pdf

I can’t speak for others as to what they would do. As for me, whether in a professional capacity or civilian capacity, if I ever witness that happening to someone y’all will read or see it on the news. That officer should had been rolled hard of that mans neck. I mean linebacker on a quarterback hard and rolled in his ass. I’ll suffer whatever consequences that come about afterwards. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I am willing to die helping a fellow officer in need and willing to die to help a fellow person in need. This guy needed help no two ways about it.

This is the main point for me. God loves that man as much as me. I am disappointed in how many people forget that.

News said the kneeing cop had 18 complaints against him. Some reports were paid off by the city. I heard it on CNN around 1pm today.

I will not draw a conclusion based on a short video, who knows what happened the ten or twenty minutes before he was cuffed, it may have been posted already, i just dont see how he could lay there yelling that loud for that long if he could not breathe,

Well had to be the thruth if cnn reported it

Fox is reporting it too. The other cop on the video was sued for beating a cuffed arrestee previously too and the city settled the case.

yeah, he was obviously faking it

9 minutes is short?

What happened 20 minutes before isn’t relevant. That was over. He wasn’t moving. The only reason to think about what happened earlier is if you think the cop should be allowed to use excessive force as a punishment.

Three shooting involvements and 10 complaints in 19 years.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/cop-in-george-floyds-death-was-the-subject-of-10-complaints/

One of the shootings occurred when the suspect pointed a shotgun at officers, which IMO is justified. Point a gun at a cop and you're going to get perforated, or you should be.

no chitt, I'd not believe ANYTHING they said.

I agree with Marshmud991. This exactly from my 10 years experience as former law enforcement based on the videos. Video is shameful and disgusting. Knee on neck is not anything I was taught either. Carotid choke is carefully done with arms protecting windpipe. Knees are for 3 point pins and other restraint techniques taught in law enforcement academies. Suspect was cuffed and doesn’t appear to be resisting.He should have been stuffed in the police vehicle. If he resisted off video by trying to flee and was taken to the ground he should have been put in the vehicle with the sufficient backup present. There were other officers there whose duty it was to stop what was happening and help put him in the police vehicle. They just watched a 19 year veteran who knew better than to ignore complaints the suspect couldn’t breathe.