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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: jb20]
#3125273
05/17/20 08:15 PM
05/17/20 08:15 PM
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blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
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blount county alabama
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Just remember somebody(your pastor, maybe deacons) is having to make decisions involving the safety of the whole congregation. Im sure they are doing the best they can. If they are wrong in their decision the results could be disastrous. They are going to err on the side of caution. Ive been going through some hard stuff on the inside concerning the church. Ive just tried to remember I am one person, one member and everybody just dont feel the way I do about this thing. Youre probably doing the right thing and im sure the Lord will let you know when to go back. We started having service inside again today. Some folks chose to continue sitting outside and listening on the radio. As far as the spiritual side of all this goes, I dont know why were having to go through all this but I am determined I will come out the other side of it with my relationship with God intact. I get what your saying but that also goes along with the gov't line of thought...we cant let a person get infected thing I get what youre saying too and ive wrestled with that too. Our govt regularly lies to us, manipulates us, and steals from us. I do not trust them one bit and I dont believe they have our best interests at heart ever. They are 100% out for themselves. I know the men personally who are making the decisions at our church. I know they love us, ive seen them wrestle with these decisions theyve had to make and I know 100% they have our best interests at heart. They have absolutely nothing to gain from the decisions they make. To me, that is the difference. That being said, I wont be wearing a mask. I was sure glad to be back in my seat at church today. I needed that. I am also very glad not to have to make the decision NWALJM is having to make.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125287
05/17/20 08:25 PM
05/17/20 08:25 PM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,277
Walker county
Driveby
Doing the best I can.
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Doing the best I can.
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Walker county
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So the church I attend has issued a statement to our congregation that they will be opening back up worship services on May 31st but will require worshipers to wear facemasks. Online services will continue for those that don’t feel safe attending. What about those of us who feel that the church has no Biblical authority to mandate that its members wear a mask? Personally, I and my family have made the decision that we will not be returning to church until hopefully our leadership sees that they have overstepped their boundaries, at least it seems they have to me. I can’t understand why I’m legally allowed to go out to eat, shop, etc without a mask but I can’t go to the Lord’s house without one? Guys, I’ve been a Christian for most all of my life, would consider myself a strong and faithful believer (though not nearly where I ought to be), but I’m really struggling with this. Are my convictions misplaced, how would any of you other brothers in Christ handle this? Anyone else attend a church that has required this? All the other churches around us and fellow baptist churches have only encouraged the use of masks if you felt comfortable with it. There's a lot of things you can legally do that you couldn't or wouldn't do in church. Have any of those things kept you from going in the past?
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125310
05/17/20 09:05 PM
05/17/20 09:05 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,565
Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
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Footbsll Bat PSYOPS
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Cape San Blas, Florida
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I think that the Lord absolutely does protect his children. While the Lord does want us to trust him, I believe it’s on us to make wise choices. 2000 years ago, medical science was younger. We now have inroads and breakthroughs that are common knowledge, but you maybe could have been killed for believing back then.
Believe me, I’m not speaking down to anyone. I’m the least qualified one here. Pray on it, buddy. I was raised in Church of Christ, so I get it. Good folks, I might add.
Edit: There are a lot of issues that are not directly covered by scripture. So far as the face masks, one set of folks not on board nukes the whole idea for the rest. I have no idea what I would do in your spot.
Last edited by Deadwood; 05/17/20 09:11 PM.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125316
05/17/20 09:08 PM
05/17/20 09:08 PM
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 14,089
Chilton County
MarksOutdoors
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 14,089
Chilton County
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All SBC churches are autonomous. The Pastor and Elders are trying to make decisions on behalf of keeping the congregants safe. There could also be some liability on behalf of the church, as an entity, if there can be proven irresponsibility by its leadership. I don't, necessarily, like the decision, but its in the hands of your leadeship.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: kkfish]
#3125355
05/17/20 09:55 PM
05/17/20 09:55 PM
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Posts: 2,424
Dale County, AL
Groundhawg
10 point
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10 point
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Dale County, AL
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The mask do nothing to stop anything. One that is air tight would but this stuff that’s going on now has gone way too far. If u have Heath problems then if it makes u feel better stay away from the public but anything that travels by way of air we breath can’t be stopped no matter what u hear or think. Distancing just prolongs the inevitable of any like the flu which is what this is. I personally don’t and don’t knock anyone who does so to ur situation maybe since there are elder folks in ur church I would assume. Just sit away from them if possible but like I said a flu like virus will find a way regardless of this mask stuff. Also there’s no laws on mask so all this wouldn’t stand up in courts of any kind. Some folks pushing this stuff gonna find themselves being sued over this stuff before it’s said and done. After November u will not hear much about this virus as well. Hum..so the masks do nothing to stop anything. Guess that is why all the EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other health employees are wearing them.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125363
05/17/20 10:01 PM
05/17/20 10:01 PM
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Posts: 3,860
dothan
eskimo270
10 point
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10 point
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dothan
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I wouldn’t worry about it yet. I might would tell my pastor that I probably won’t be attending because I won’t wear a mask but I wouldn’t cause a big fuss. There are some things that we need to take a stand on but for me, this would not be one.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: bigt]
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05/18/20 12:06 AM
05/18/20 12:06 AM
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Posts: 11,937
Satsuma
kodiak06
Booner
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Booner
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Satsuma
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Well since someone else owns the church I would think they make the rules. Same thing at most peoples homes as businesses. If ya don't like the rules I'm sure other churches have different rules in your area (maybe) The church building is owned by the “congregation “ not a person usually. I would make my position known to the pastor and deacons as a member of the congregation and go from there . The point was HE don't own it lol. Either way, it's a choice to attend...
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: Groundhawg]
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05/18/20 12:07 AM
05/18/20 12:07 AM
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Posts: 11,937
Satsuma
kodiak06
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Booner
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Satsuma
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The mask do nothing to stop anything. One that is air tight would but this stuff that’s going on now has gone way too far. If u have Heath problems then if it makes u feel better stay away from the public but anything that travels by way of air we breath can’t be stopped no matter what u hear or think. Distancing just prolongs the inevitable of any like the flu which is what this is. I personally don’t and don’t knock anyone who does so to ur situation maybe since there are elder folks in ur church I would assume. Just sit away from them if possible but like I said a flu like virus will find a way regardless of this mask stuff. Also there’s no laws on mask so all this wouldn’t stand up in courts of any kind. Some folks pushing this stuff gonna find themselves being sued over this stuff before it’s said and done. After November u will not hear much about this virus as well. Hum..so the masks do nothing to stop anything. Guess that is why all the EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other health employees are wearing them. LOL, I think its funny what people think a mask does and doesn't do...
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: Groundhawg]
#3125414
05/18/20 12:27 AM
05/18/20 12:27 AM
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Posts: 7,234
Lee County
RCHRR
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,234
Lee County
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The mask do nothing to stop anything. One that is air tight would but this stuff that’s going on now has gone way too far. If u have Heath problems then if it makes u feel better stay away from the public but anything that travels by way of air we breath can’t be stopped no matter what u hear or think. Distancing just prolongs the inevitable of any like the flu which is what this is. I personally don’t and don’t knock anyone who does so to ur situation maybe since there are elder folks in ur church I would assume. Just sit away from them if possible but like I said a flu like virus will find a way regardless of this mask stuff. Also there’s no laws on mask so all this wouldn’t stand up in courts of any kind. Some folks pushing this stuff gonna find themselves being sued over this stuff before it’s said and done. After November u will not hear much about this virus as well. Hum..so the masks do nothing to stop anything. Guess that is why all the EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other health employees are wearing them. Wearing them because it's mandated just like having to take the flu vaccine. EMT's, Doctors and Nurses have caught Covid wearing mask. Go figure.
Last edited by RCHRR; 05/18/20 12:29 AM.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: RCHRR]
#3125415
05/18/20 12:35 AM
05/18/20 12:35 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,200
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jun 2013
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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The mask do nothing to stop anything. One that is air tight would but this stuff that’s going on now has gone way too far. If u have Heath problems then if it makes u feel better stay away from the public but anything that travels by way of air we breath can’t be stopped no matter what u hear or think. Distancing just prolongs the inevitable of any like the flu which is what this is. I personally don’t and don’t knock anyone who does so to ur situation maybe since there are elder folks in ur church I would assume. Just sit away from them if possible but like I said a flu like virus will find a way regardless of this mask stuff. Also there’s no laws on mask so all this wouldn’t stand up in courts of any kind. Some folks pushing this stuff gonna find themselves being sued over this stuff before it’s said and done. After November u will not hear much about this virus as well. Hum..so the masks do nothing to stop anything. Guess that is why all the EMTs, doctors, nurses, and other health employees are wearing them. Wearing them because it's mandated just like having to take the flu vaccine. EMT's, Doctors and Nurses have caught Covid wearing mask. Go figure. Don't be coming in here with facts! 😀 But seriously I've worn nearly every disposable mask available, and I'd still have primer dust all up my damn nose mouth etc, so i stop wearing them years ago, but i still wear a respirator when a paint, cause it's hard to paint when you're high 🤪
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125467
05/18/20 06:54 AM
05/18/20 06:54 AM
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Posts: 16,495
Guntersville
AC870
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Guntersville
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They’re optional when our church resumes 31st.
Our church is going to a 9 a.m. service for ages 60 and up and a noon service for everyone else.
Seating every other pew. One set of pews for 9 a.m. Another for noon.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: kodiak06]
#3125490
05/18/20 07:46 AM
05/18/20 07:46 AM
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Hartselle, AL
NWALJM
OP
10 point
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OP
10 point
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 3,287
Hartselle, AL
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I wouldn’t worry about it yet. I might would tell my pastor that I probably won’t be attending because I won’t wear a mask but I wouldn’t cause a big fuss. There are some things that we need to take a stand on but for me, this would not be one. That is basically my plan, I am not nor will I cause a big fuss over this to our pastors or leaders. I do believe that they are doing what they believe is the best thing, even though I may disagree with their decision. But this is not a hill worth dying on as they say. Well since someone else owns the church I would think they make the rules. Same thing at most peoples homes as businesses. If ya don't like the rules I'm sure other churches have different rules in your area (maybe) The church building is owned by the “congregation “ not a person usually. I would make my position known to the pastor and deacons as a member of the congregation and go from there . The point was HE don't own it lol. Either way, it's a choice to attend... Who do you think pays the light bill, pastors salary, etc? The title to the building may not be in the name of the church's lay people but they dang sure keep it from going back to the bank.
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Re: Churches and Facemasks
[Re: NWALJM]
#3125505
05/18/20 08:08 AM
05/18/20 08:08 AM
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Posts: 21,445
HSV AL
jmudler
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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HSV AL
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Church ownership comment made me thing of something funny. Our pastor and I are friends. We were on a camp retreat a last year and we were talking about insurance or loan paperwork cant remember. In the the section of the form where it listed owner, he entered Jesus Christ. I laughed, and the said whats so funny.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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