Yes youth is $42 and resident sportsman license (hunting and fishing) is $166 per year. Non resident is $327 I believe with the extra permit to kill does.

I’m still waiting on a warden to drag a 7 year old into court

That ought to be a good story.

Not really sure what other states charge for hunting liscence, or what an out of state liscence is in AL. But I would think they should be comparable to other southeastern states.

Well aware of license fees, fed excise taxes, PR money and how it works. Have been aware of it for 30+ years.

Your PR skills are impressive.

Non resident All game is $320.30 and the annual baiting license is $51.00

Yep. I paid $381.50 for mine and around $138 2 times for my sons 2 3 day trips. No baiting permit for the kids.

I'm sorry, but his is such an ridiculous statement to me. We actually SHOULD require that youth/senior hunters buy (or at least register/sign up for) licenses for the very reason you stated. We are not receiving a ton of Federal Excise tax funds from the Pittman Robertson Act that then go to other states because we are reporting lower hunter numbers. This is money that we have ALREADY PAID due to taxes on firearms and ammunition required by the Act. We get that money back in a proportionate amount, which is calculated by...DING DING DING...the number of licensed hunters. The fact that you are pissed that we MIGHT someday require youth/senior hunters purchase licenses is mind boggling. I'm not even actually saying they should have to pay for the license, but they should at least have to register that they intended to hunt, just so that we can show that our hunting numbers are far higher than the actual number of licenses sold. And of course the baiting privilege is a money grab, but who cares? Where do you think that money goes? It goes back into the AL DNR, which then uses it to manage our wildlife. If you have an issue with HOW the DNR manages the wildlife, that's one thing, but the only way the AL DNR gets funding is through licenses and other registration/usage fees, and then the Federal funding from Pittman Robertson. They don't receive any funds from the State.[/quote]





PR payments are based off of “License” purchased not “Permits”
The BS with the baiting privilege is you can’t really be sure what that money goes to. I don’t like the way Chucky does business!
And I payed for my license.

I guess that's why its so confusing for me. You are clearly knowledgeable about how it all works. So why would you oppose a $5 license or something similar so that Alabama can show how many hunters it truly has and receive more federal funding?

I understand that PR comes from licenses and not baiting permits. I was more commenting on the statement that he could see us requiring some sort of licence for Youth hunters in the future, which I feel would be a good thing, and dislike how we don't already require it.

And sure you can't be sure exactly where the money from baiting permits go, but you could say the same about license fees as well. It all goes to the Al DNR, though, and they have to use it the same way they have to use their other funds. It's not like its a completely separate fund and they can just use it to increase their salary or something.

In your world, why even have restrictions? Anyone who hunts or fishes should have a license, from birth to death.

Right? Daddy takes Lil' Johnny on a dove hunt and Lil' Johnny is ecstatic about taking his BB gun, eating snacks and helping Daddy.

But first they have to get Lil' Johnny a license and Customer ID number and Happy User Experience Number and GameCheck blood test and every other thing needed for him to become a real hunter and become immersed into the system. Gotta make sure he's fully involved so the numbers will be accurate and that P-R money comes back.

And Grandpa wants to go out to his family farm one last time and maybe walk with the dogs or sit in a deer stand. He's 87 but would like one last hunt. But by gosh, he has to get his license and GameCheck number and everything else to do that so he can be counted.

If you're for this, you should be for zero exemptions for anyone for anything, ever. No military exemptions. No field trial exemptions. No exemptions for anyone on WMAs for any reason - hikers, hunters, whatever. Everyone must have their papers!

You're doing a good job of PR for the department.


As for license money, fines, permit money, fees and anything else, the Department should be posting line-item explanations of everything that is received, spent, allocated, salaries and other expenditures. The public darn well should know where the money from the "baiting privilege license" fees goes and who has access or how it's spent.

You can be sure exactly where the money from baiting permits and licenses goes with a completely transparent, open manner. That's how government agencies receiving spending taxpayer money are supposed to be run. Shrugging it off as "Oh, well, you can't be sure exactly where it goes!" is folly.

The state is guilty of a 'bait and switch', if they were to be taken to court over their 'adjustments' to what a lifetime license entails, they would lose. They sold licenses under a certain 'LIFETIME' set of parameters and later changed those parameters because they see a way to make more money. Straight from their website:

"LIFETIME
Resident
Alabama Game, Fish and Wildlife Law; Article 2; beginning with 9-11-65
PRIVILEGE:
• Allows residents to make a one-time purchase of hunting and/or fishing license privileges that are
valid for the lifetime of the license holder (valid if moves out-of-state)"

If they want to change the layout of lifetime license purchases from including 'one-time purchase of hunting license privileges' going forward, that would be fine. However, for those that purchased a license that was supposed to be a 'ONE-TIME' fee its b.s.. They are reneging on what they sold in the past.

Bingo. Lifetime privileges. No exceptions. The department is going back on their word.

I don't know, Geeb.

Ol' Madd makes a good case for everyone needing a hunting or fishing license regardless of age, military background or anything else.

That license structure needs to be reworked and anyone - from birth to death - who hunts or fishes must get their papers and pay their fair share.

It's only fair for them regardless of age do their part to help the greater good. That crazy "lifetime license" thing probably should go away, too. You paid a little bit 20, 30 years ago! You're a teat-sucking leech not helping your fellow man and the greater good.

That must end. Everyone will need to have their papers.

exactly Clem, exactly. We don't need more restrictions. Anyone who thinks we need a license for children to hunt, at any cost, is a fkn idiot.

YOU PAY YOUR SWEET 4-YEAR-OLD GRANDCHILD'S FAIR SHARE, FRED!

Do you not still get the privilege of hunting and/or fishing with your lifetime liscence.

Clem hit the bullseye on those last 2 paragraphs.
The Department is being managed like it’s run by politicians. Tax dollars being spent for Forever Wild land, then used for special interest ie. SOA, not available to all.
And what about hikers,bikers, bird watchers, & tree huggers what are they paying to use our resources.
I wished more hunters cared how the money is spent, and demanded an explanation from leaders.
FOLLOW THE MONEY

yes

No, not all privileges. Only some.

Do you not get all the privileges with your lifetime liscence that I get with my liscence I purchased this year.