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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907721
09/18/19 08:38 PM
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He has supposedly been helping out at Mizzou with the QB's....But you didn't hear that from me.... wink... smile


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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907724
09/18/19 08:40 PM
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Round ‘bout there

Not surprised, really. Figured he's been consulting or working as an "analyst" for someone.

Saw a story about Freeze last week and it said he'd been a consultant for Auburn and, I think, Alabama last year. Also not surprising. Having an outsider watching with different eyes and not in the spotlight probably isn't a bad thing, too.


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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Clem] #2907730
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Originally Posted by Clem

Likely choice, but he's making $2 million running a defense instead of being HC. I think he has kids there in high school, too.

He probably could be a great HC. Some assistants or coordinators can make that leap and do it well, like Lincoln Riley. Others are better at being an OC and not taking on the whole enchilada.

Throw $6M or $7M a year at someone, though, along with facility upgrades and the *wink*wink* allowance of a year to recruit by other coaches (which probably still happens, unless you're stupid like Hugh Freeze), and that might change his mind, though.



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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907799
09/18/19 09:25 PM
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We haven't seen the last of Bobby Petrino...

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907857
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Does Bobby Lowder still have a jet? I'll take Gus over big choke Bob Stoops. The devil you know....

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907858
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2nd and 26 anyone?

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907866
09/19/19 03:24 AM
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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Clem] #2907882
09/19/19 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Clem


Stoops? He's retired. Maybe.



Stoops isn't retired. He's head coach and GM of the Dallas Renegades franchise in the XFL to start the week after the Super Bowl in 2020. He was the leagues first coaching hire, Oliver Luck (Andrews dad) is league commissioner. Hal Mumme is his OC, which is also interesting.

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2907899
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I think the post above mentioning the wrong stoops is right. Bob's time is past and the Kentucky stoops isn't a bad hire, I mean look what he's done with Kentucky.... imagine what we could do with Auburn. If Auburn goes for a name rather than X's and O's they could miss out again. Also the post above mentioning they're the only school hunting for a coach whilst in the top 10 is also a sobering dose of reality. It reminds me of what happened with Tuberville.

I watched Cowturd yesterday and he was talking about having a number of wins for every school in college football. He said that Clemson, Alabama and Ohio State are the only three that should win 11 games every year. Then there's a second tier of teams that should win 8.5-9 games a year.... those being Michigan, USC, Texas, Penn State. He never mentioned Auburn but what is Auburn's number and is Gus meeting that number, under achieving or over achieving? Realistically, in the SEC with Georgia and Alabama being the juggernauts they are what is AU's number?

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2908182
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Auburn's a historic 7-9 wins a season school and honestly, without Saban, Bama is historically an 8-10 wins a season school. You only have 10+ win seasons on a regular basis when you've got the best in coaching, your program in place and operating, and a couple years under your belt to get your recruiting tree in place. 10+ win seasons are a anomaly on a regular basis. It happens but only when you've got a situation like Bama and Clemson are currently enjoying where the coach, ther program and the recruiting is basically running on cruise control. To think otherwise is ridiculous and you should just sit back and enjoy it when you're lucky enough for it to happen to your team. It's happening right now with both Bama and Clemson but it will come to an end at some point.

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: abolt300] #2908251
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Auburn's a historic 7-9 wins a season school and honestly, without Saban, Bama is historically an 8-10 wins a season school. You only have 10+ win seasons on a regular basis when you've got the best in coaching, your program in place and operating, and a couple years under your belt to get your recruiting tree in place. 10+ win seasons are a anomaly on a regular basis. It happens but only when you've got a situation like Bama and Clemson are currently enjoying where the coach, ther program and the recruiting is basically running on cruise control. To think otherwise is ridiculous and you should just sit back and enjoy it when you're lucky enough for it to happen to your team. It's happening right now with both Bama and Clemson but it will come to an end at some point.


I agree except I put Bama at a historic 9-11 win game season because outside of Saban we’ve had Bear and Frank Thomas.

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: NSDQ160] #2908255
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160


I agree except I put Bama at a historic 9-11 win game season because outside of Saban we’ve had Bear and Frank Thomas.


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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: Dustin] #2908274
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9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.

I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: joshm28] #2908390
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Originally Posted by joshm28
9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.

I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.



It’s funny how every fan base says the same thing about opposing fan-bases. A Tennessee fan that I work with said this same thing about Auburn fans, he also threw in the fact that most AU fans have a “elitists” mentality. I agreed with him and neither of us could explain why this mentality exists with MOST of them.

I agree with your assessment of Gus.. don’t hire great coaches and tell them what to do, hire great coaches and let them tell you what to do.

As Assholish as Saban could appear to be, I think Gus would be the nightmare to work for.


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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: joshm28] #2908527
09/19/19 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by joshm28
9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.

I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.



Not trolling on this one. I do not think Gus has the CEO mentality as you described. He believes his offensive scheme can and will work and no one else can run his offense better than he can. Saban often has the final say, but he does seem to let the coordinators coach.

Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: NSDQ160] #2908593
09/20/19 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by jawbone
Is Yella Fella going to cheese up the buyout and foot the bill it would take to get Stoops? The school shouldn't have to pay for his ego and whims. At some point the damn fat cats that allow stupid talk like this to get started are going to realize that they are the program's worst enemies.


Boosters like this almost killed Alabama’s football program.... they’re going to do the same thing at Auburn if y’all don’t get a coach, AD and President willing to get them under control. For us it took Saban and it was painful that first year or two but it worked.



They have done it at Auburn, 2 or 3 times in the past.


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Re: Yellawood Stoops [Re: jbatey1] #2908930
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Originally Posted by joshm28
9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.

I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.



It’s funny how every fan base says the same thing about opposing fan-bases. A Tennessee fan that I work with said this same thing about Auburn fans, he also threw in the fact that most AU fans have a “elitists” mentality. I agreed with him and neither of us could explain why this mentality exists with MOST of them.

I agree with your assessment of Gus.. don’t hire great coaches and tell them what to do, hire great coaches and let them tell you what to do.

As Assholish as Saban could appear to be, I think Gus would be the nightmare to work for.



My comments and feelings is based on actual game day visits to other schools. Alabama fans can be awful. Part of it is the elitist attitude due to the run they are on.

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