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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: Dustin]
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09/18/19 08:40 PM
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Clem
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Not surprised, really. Figured he's been consulting or working as an "analyst" for someone.
Saw a story about Freeze last week and it said he'd been a consultant for Auburn and, I think, Alabama last year. Also not surprising. Having an outsider watching with different eyes and not in the spotlight probably isn't a bad thing, too.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: Clem]
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09/18/19 08:43 PM
09/18/19 08:43 PM
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Likely choice, but he's making $2 million running a defense instead of being HC. I think he has kids there in high school, too.
He probably could be a great HC. Some assistants or coordinators can make that leap and do it well, like Lincoln Riley. Others are better at being an OC and not taking on the whole enchilada.
Throw $6M or $7M a year at someone, though, along with facility upgrades and the *wink*wink* allowance of a year to recruit by other coaches (which probably still happens, unless you're stupid like Hugh Freeze), and that might change his mind, though.
Everyone knows they're coming for Saban.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: Dustin]
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09/19/19 03:24 AM
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FSU should go after Kiffin.
Don't let life get in the way of living
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: Clem]
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09/19/19 06:22 AM
09/19/19 06:22 AM
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bama1971
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Stoops? He's retired. Maybe.
Stoops isn't retired. He's head coach and GM of the Dallas Renegades franchise in the XFL to start the week after the Super Bowl in 2020. He was the leagues first coaching hire, Oliver Luck (Andrews dad) is league commissioner. Hal Mumme is his OC, which is also interesting.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: abolt300]
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09/19/19 03:42 PM
09/19/19 03:42 PM
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Auburn's a historic 7-9 wins a season school and honestly, without Saban, Bama is historically an 8-10 wins a season school. You only have 10+ win seasons on a regular basis when you've got the best in coaching, your program in place and operating, and a couple years under your belt to get your recruiting tree in place. 10+ win seasons are a anomaly on a regular basis. It happens but only when you've got a situation like Bama and Clemson are currently enjoying where the coach, ther program and the recruiting is basically running on cruise control. To think otherwise is ridiculous and you should just sit back and enjoy it when you're lucky enough for it to happen to your team. It's happening right now with both Bama and Clemson but it will come to an end at some point. I agree except I put Bama at a historic 9-11 win game season because outside of Saban we’ve had Bear and Frank Thomas.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: NSDQ160]
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09/19/19 03:48 PM
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I agree except I put Bama at a historic 9-11 win game season because outside of Saban we’ve had Bear and Frank Thomas.
Stallings averaged 10
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: joshm28]
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09/19/19 08:06 PM
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9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.
I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.
It’s funny how every fan base says the same thing about opposing fan-bases. A Tennessee fan that I work with said this same thing about Auburn fans, he also threw in the fact that most AU fans have a “elitists” mentality. I agreed with him and neither of us could explain why this mentality exists with MOST of them. I agree with your assessment of Gus.. don’t hire great coaches and tell them what to do, hire great coaches and let them tell you what to do. As Assholish as Saban could appear to be, I think Gus would be the nightmare to work for.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: joshm28]
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09/19/19 10:08 PM
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9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.
I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.
Not trolling on this one. I do not think Gus has the CEO mentality as you described. He believes his offensive scheme can and will work and no one else can run his offense better than he can. Saban often has the final say, but he does seem to let the coordinators coach.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: NSDQ160]
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09/20/19 06:32 AM
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Gotcha1
Bright Eyes
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Is Yella Fella going to cheese up the buyout and foot the bill it would take to get Stoops? The school shouldn't have to pay for his ego and whims. At some point the damn fat cats that allow stupid talk like this to get started are going to realize that they are the program's worst enemies. Boosters like this almost killed Alabama’s football program.... they’re going to do the same thing at Auburn if y’all don’t get a coach, AD and President willing to get them under control. For us it took Saban and it was painful that first year or two but it worked. They have done it at Auburn, 2 or 3 times in the past.
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Re: Yellawood Stoops
[Re: jbatey1]
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09/20/19 05:43 PM
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joshm28
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9+ wins per year is a good number for Auburn. They consistently recruit in the top 10-15 so they have the athletes. As an auburn fan I’m upset at the production on the field which is directly attributed to Gus. They have the athletes to compete st the highest level but don’t have a coach smart enough to get them prepared. When firing on all cylinders they can beat BAma or Clemson. It’s not gonna be every year though.
I don’t like Alabama simply because of the fans. They are for the most part VERY obnoxious. Eventually this GREAT run will come to an end and these same fans are gonna take it rough. With that being said I wish Gus was smart enough to act as a CEO and hire the RIGHT people to do the other jobs. That’s something Saban is great at. Historically good coaches follow this same model. It’s not that difficult but most college coaches have such a big ego they can’t help but stick their noses into things. At least that’s my opinion.
It’s funny how every fan base says the same thing about opposing fan-bases. A Tennessee fan that I work with said this same thing about Auburn fans, he also threw in the fact that most AU fans have a “elitists” mentality. I agreed with him and neither of us could explain why this mentality exists with MOST of them. I agree with your assessment of Gus.. don’t hire great coaches and tell them what to do, hire great coaches and let them tell you what to do. As Assholish as Saban could appear to be, I think Gus would be the nightmare to work for. My comments and feelings is based on actual game day visits to other schools. Alabama fans can be awful. Part of it is the elitist attitude due to the run they are on.
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