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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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09/09/19 10:57 AM
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Northport, AL
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So, snuffy and PCP........I've always said I wouldn't have one just because most of the places I hunt are moderately hilly, and in my experience, hills run batteries down quick. But after reading through this thread and the other recent one, in hindsight most of the people I've known that used electric carts were probably the guys that took a bone stock 36v cart, threw on a lift/tires and went hunting.
If done "the right way", like y'all have mentioned in these threads about upgrading motors/controllers/wiring/etc, does that make enough of a difference that a 48v electric cart would be sufficient even on property with some pretty good hills?
There ain't a road anywhere that my cart won't climb, and it is only 42 volts. Set one up properly and hills will not be the issue. The biggest issue with them compared to a 4 wd ATV is mud. I'm not talking about a mudhole; it will handle that. Where it could be a real problem is in places where you have road that is a mile of mud, the kind of places where a truck would have to be in 4wd to have any hope of getting through. I've hunted places in the Black Belt that are like this and a 2 wd electric cart would be more trouble than it's worth in such a place. I have no access to places like that, so not an issue for me. I would put a rear end like Snuffy has on mine if I needed, but I get stuck so seldom that it just wouldn't be worth it to me. And the few times I've gotten stuck, the winch had me out quickly. Another place where an electric might not be a good choice is if you are in a club that's really big, like 5000 acres or more. If you regularly drive more than 10 miles while hunting, I'd stick with a gasoline vehicle. All the tracts I hunt are under 700 acres. Running out of a charge won't be an issue if you charge it every night, and you are supposed to do that anyway. Good luck deciding. Club I'm in is ~2000 acres and has a pretty decent road system from what I can tell (although this is my first year and I haven't been out there during a wet winter/spring)
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: GomerPyle]
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09/09/19 11:09 AM
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Sylacauga, AL
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So, snuffy and PCP........I've always said I wouldn't have one just because most of the places I hunt are moderately hilly, and in my experience, hills run batteries down quick. But after reading through this thread and the other recent one, in hindsight most of the people I've known that used electric carts were probably the guys that took a bone stock 36v cart, threw on a lift/tires and went hunting.
If done "the right way", like y'all have mentioned in these threads about upgrading motors/controllers/wiring/etc, does that make enough of a difference that a 48v electric cart would be sufficient even on property with some pretty good hills?
There ain't a road anywhere that my cart won't climb, and it is only 42 volts. Set one up properly and hills will not be the issue. The biggest issue with them compared to a 4 wd ATV is mud. I'm not talking about a mudhole; it will handle that. Where it could be a real problem is in places where you have road that is a mile of mud, the kind of places where a truck would have to be in 4wd to have any hope of getting through. I've hunted places in the Black Belt that are like this and a 2 wd electric cart would be more trouble than it's worth in such a place. I have no access to places like that, so not an issue for me. I would put a rear end like Snuffy has on mine if I needed, but I get stuck so seldom that it just wouldn't be worth it to me. And the few times I've gotten stuck, the winch had me out quickly. Another place where an electric might not be a good choice is if you are in a club that's really big, like 5000 acres or more. If you regularly drive more than 10 miles while hunting, I'd stick with a gasoline vehicle. All the tracts I hunt are under 700 acres. Running out of a charge won't be an issue if you charge it every night, and you are supposed to do that anyway. Good luck deciding. Club I'm in is ~2000 acres and has a pretty decent road system from what I can tell (although this is my first year and I haven't been out there during a wet winter/spring) That's getting to the size where range could be an issue at times. It would depend on how that 2000 acres lies and where your starting point will be. If it's basically square and you start from a camp in the middle, then it won't be an issue. But if it's long and narrow and you start from one end, maybe it could. At least, it could with a standard cart using flooded lead acid batteries. If you go to lithium batteries, guys are claiming ranges over 40 miles with them. That's expensive compared to the regular carts, but still cheap compared to a new Bad Boy. You could build a super cart that would do anything cheaper than a new Bad Boy.
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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09/09/19 11:13 AM
09/09/19 11:13 AM
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Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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So, snuffy and PCP........I've always said I wouldn't have one just because most of the places I hunt are moderately hilly, and in my experience, hills run batteries down quick. But after reading through this thread and the other recent one, in hindsight most of the people I've known that used electric carts were probably the guys that took a bone stock 36v cart, threw on a lift/tires and went hunting.
If done "the right way", like y'all have mentioned in these threads about upgrading motors/controllers/wiring/etc, does that make enough of a difference that a 48v electric cart would be sufficient even on property with some pretty good hills?
There ain't a road anywhere that my cart won't climb, and it is only 42 volts. Set one up properly and hills will not be the issue. The biggest issue with them compared to a 4 wd ATV is mud. I'm not talking about a mudhole; it will handle that. Where it could be a real problem is in places where you have road that is a mile of mud, the kind of places where a truck would have to be in 4wd to have any hope of getting through. I've hunted places in the Black Belt that are like this and a 2 wd electric cart would be more trouble than it's worth in such a place. I have no access to places like that, so not an issue for me. I would put a rear end like Snuffy has on mine if I needed, but I get stuck so seldom that it just wouldn't be worth it to me. And the few times I've gotten stuck, the winch had me out quickly. Another place where an electric might not be a good choice is if you are in a club that's really big, like 5000 acres or more. If you regularly drive more than 10 miles while hunting, I'd stick with a gasoline vehicle. All the tracts I hunt are under 700 acres. Running out of a charge won't be an issue if you charge it every night, and you are supposed to do that anyway. Good luck deciding. Club I'm in is ~2000 acres and has a pretty decent road system from what I can tell (although this is my first year and I haven't been out there during a wet winter/spring) That's getting to the size where range could be an issue at times. It would depend on how that 2000 acres lies and where your starting point will be. If it's basically square and you start from a camp in the middle, then it won't be an issue. But if it's long and narrow and you start from one end, maybe it could. At least, it could with a standard cart using flooded lead acid batteries. If you go to lithium batteries, guys are claiming ranges over 40 miles with them. That's expensive compared to the regular carts, but still cheap compared to a new Bad Boy. You could build a super cart that would do anything cheaper than a new Bad Boy. Gotcha. Thanks for the feedback
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: Moose24]
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09/09/19 11:35 AM
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Monroe County, AL
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Send me some pics and a price If someone wants a project. I have a Beast 48 that needs work. Battery's, Tires, Back seat at a minimum. Maybe we can negotiate a price. If someone wants a project. I have a Beast 48 that needs work. Battery's, Tires, Back seat at a minimum. Maybe we can negotiate a price. If someone wants a project. I have a Beast 48 that needs work. Battery's, Tires, Back seat at a minimum. Maybe we can negotiate a price. If someone wants a project. I have a Beast 48 that needs work. Battery's, Tires, Back seat at a minimum. Maybe we can negotiate a price. If someone wants a project. I have a Beast 48 that needs work. Battery's, Tires, Back seat at a minimum. Maybe we can negotiate a price.
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: skintback]
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09/09/19 12:22 PM
09/09/19 12:22 PM
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Port St Joe, FL
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skintback. Will do when I get home later today
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: 270wsm]
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09/09/19 04:07 PM
09/09/19 04:07 PM
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North Jackson
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I had 3 BBB's and they were all junk. Only paid for 1 and they replaced with 2 more before giving my $$$ back. Had a Stealth 64V that performed well, until it was stolen. Currently have a custom built EZGO that outperforms them all for 1/2 the $$$. I don't have to worry about hills, but our place is muddy and it handles the mud just fine. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/dUOtQBK.jpg) What kinda a money would a unit like that cost?
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: billrv]
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09/09/19 10:31 PM
09/09/19 10:31 PM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Tried to stay positive about my BBB through some issues but have lost my positivity. Bottom line it is an over engineered product that even the manufacturer cant diagnose. Nobody wants to claim responsibility for failures and very few dealers / shops want to work on it. To the 40 mile range on Lithium Batteries....maybe down hill in a hurricane!!!! If you just open up a Bad Boy and look inside you can see that sucker is complicated. There is a whole lot that can go wrong with those. People who own them often post in the forums asking for help, but they seldom get any. Have you owned a lithium pack and found the range lacking? I looked into it, but decided that it still requires more knowledge than I have to set one up. I think they will eventually be offering lithium packs that are plug and play, and I will consider it then. The thing about it is that it's so light you can stack pack on top of pack and get as much range as you want. Just gotta know what you are doing, and I wouldn't.
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: skintback]
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03/12/21 02:43 PM
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Monroe County, AL
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Thanks. This post was from 2019, I ended up buying a ranger
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: skintback]
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03/12/21 04:51 PM
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North AL
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Reliable and electric 4x4 golf cart don't belong in the same sentence.
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: GomerPyle]
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03/12/21 05:02 PM
03/12/21 05:02 PM
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Georgia and Missouri
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So, snuffy and PCP........I've always said I wouldn't have one just because most of the places I hunt are moderately hilly, and in my experience, hills run batteries down quick. But after reading through this thread and the other recent one, in hindsight most of the people I've known that used electric carts were probably the guys that took a bone stock 36v cart, threw on a lift/tires and went hunting.
If done "the right way", like y'all have mentioned in these threads about upgrading motors/controllers/wiring/etc, does that make enough of a difference that a 48v electric cart would be sufficient even on property with some pretty good hills?
There ain't a road anywhere that my cart won't climb, and it is only 42 volts. Set one up properly and hills will not be the issue. The biggest issue with them compared to a 4 wd ATV is mud. I'm not talking about a mudhole; it will handle that. Where it could be a real problem is in places where you have road that is a mile of mud, the kind of places where a truck would have to be in 4wd to have any hope of getting through. I've hunted places in the Black Belt that are like this and a 2 wd electric cart would be more trouble than it's worth in such a place. I have no access to places like that, so not an issue for me. I would put a rear end like Snuffy has on mine if I needed, but I get stuck so seldom that it just wouldn't be worth it to me. And the few times I've gotten stuck, the winch had me out quickly. Another place where an electric might not be a good choice is if you are in a club that's really big, like 5000 acres or more. If you regularly drive more than 10 miles while hunting, I'd stick with a gasoline vehicle. All the tracts I hunt are under 700 acres. Running out of a charge won't be an issue if you charge it every night, and you are supposed to do that anyway. Good luck deciding. Club I'm in is ~2000 acres and has a pretty decent road system from what I can tell (although this is my first year and I haven't been out there during a wet winter/spring) We have tested out a bad boy buggy with new batteries a couple times. The only way we figured it would work is to drive the machine out the night before and hook the honda inverter up to it so it could charge all night. Then we would drive back out to it in the morning and use it the next day. Rinse and repeat. It was the same with the Ranger EV. We haven't done it because we simply drive a 1000 Ranger or other gas powered vehicle and save the trouble of charging. They are super quiet though and will really climb with that low center of gravity. On less than 1000 acres I think I would go for it. 2000 I think it is a question. If it is flat then you might be ok.
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Re: Most reliable electric 4x4 golf cart
[Re: skintback]
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03/13/21 01:37 AM
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Montgomery, AL
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Golf carts, even modified ones are not made for rough terrain. Will they do it, yes they will but it will have no where near the capabilities as a real side by side. A lot of the newer side by sides are surprisingly quiet. I think electricity and technology is the future but it’s just not there yet. Had a BBB that had constant problems. Had a buddy that had a lifted newer ezgo with the AC motors and the whole nine. He broke an axle going through a mud puddle. He had to have wheel bearings replaced on that same cart as well as a controller replaced because some mud/ water splashed up on it and messed it up. I can fill the ranger up with gas and go anywhere with no worries of range. Same for the 10 plus year old rhino or Honda ATV. I use to think electric carts were quiet and great but none of it compared to the gas counterparts designed for that use.
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