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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852896
07/16/19 11:37 AM
07/16/19 11:37 AM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
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When I'm toting a rifle, I don't carry a pistol. You'll want to eliminate any unnecessary weight. No need to carry even a few ounces of something you don't need.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852897
07/16/19 11:38 AM
07/16/19 11:38 AM
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BhamFred
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you have a rifle, no need for handgun, it will only add weight.
1. get in shape by climbing stairs, stadiums steps...UP and DOWN.
2. see #1
3. see #1
4. again...get in shape.
5. get there a couple days early to acclimate to altitude, you will be out of breath no matter yer shape, but in shape will get you over it faster.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: BhamFred]
#2852899
07/16/19 11:40 AM
07/16/19 11:40 AM
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jb20
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you have a rifle, no need for handgun, it will only add weight.
1. get in shape by climbing stairs, stadiums steps...UP and DOWN.
2. see #1
3. see #1
4. again...get in shape.
5. get there a couple days early to acclimate to altitude, you will be out of breath no matter yer shape, but in shape will get you over it faster. My uncle went on a ram hunt said same thing when be got back said he was miserable
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852915
07/16/19 12:00 PM
07/16/19 12:00 PM
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Posts: 10,445 northport
deadeye48
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As others have said GET IN SHAPE. Use a training mask for high altitude conditions and weight vest for the pack you’ll probably carry . Be serous about and work hard then you won’t sound like a dog with distemper when you get up around 8K’ or higher
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852917
07/16/19 12:02 PM
07/16/19 12:02 PM
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Posts: 12,247 Oxford, AL. USA
Big Game Hunter
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Leave the handgun at home. Get in the best shape you can and I don't mean bench pressing. Walking/climbing/running/etc. Buy the best clothing you can afford. (Sitka/Kuiu/First Lite/etc.) It does make a difference regardless of what some might say. Buy a good set of walking sticks. These will be very helpful. Buy a good back pack. A pack frame isn't required but will come in handy if you are successful. If you don't have a set, borrow or buy a good set of binoculars. You will likely use them more than any other piece of equipment. The most important......BOOTS. Buy a good pair of boots TODAY of you don't have them and start wearing them several times a week to get them broken in.
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852934
07/16/19 12:33 PM
07/16/19 12:33 PM
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Posts: 25,833 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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You might want to ask your Dr. about a prescription for Diamox. It prevents altitude sickness and if you ever get it, you'll wish you had some meds. BTW, being in shape does not prevent altitude sickness, but it can lessen the bad effects.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: Big Game Hunter]
#2852936
07/16/19 12:36 PM
07/16/19 12:36 PM
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,421 Northwest Alabama
specialk
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Thanks for all of the reply’s. Leave the handgun at home. Get in the best shape you can and I don't mean bench pressing. Walking/climbing/running/etc. Buy the best clothing you can afford. (Sitka/Kuiu/First Lite/etc.) It does make a difference regardless of what some might say. Buy a good set of walking sticks. These will be very helpful. Buy a good back pack. A pack frame isn't required but will come in handy if you are successful. If you don't have a set, borrow or buy a good set of binoculars. You will likely use them more than any other piece of equipment. The most important......BOOTS. Buy a good pair of boots TODAY of you don't have them and start wearing them several times a week to get them broken in.
BGH, I’ve been looking at Sitka, First Lite,and Kuiu gear. I feel like I have a decent layering system currently, but I’m trying to decide if it’s worth upgrading. Those companies offer so many different setups. Do you have one you recommend?
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852950
07/16/19 12:47 PM
07/16/19 12:47 PM
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Posts: 14,623 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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The only time I would consider carrying a pistol during a rifle hunt is when packing meat. I bought some high end clothes, but didn’t find them to be needed. However, good boots are a must, especially when hauling weight. I’ve found gaiters to be very handy as well.
Get use to hauling weight on your back and how to actually load it correctly in your pack.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852960
07/16/19 12:54 PM
07/16/19 12:54 PM
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Off the top of my head, here's what I wish I knew the first time I went:
1) As others have said, get in the best shape you possibly can 2) I've never gone that late, but when I've been there, It may be warm one minute and snowing like crazy 15 minutes later. Be prepared. Dress in layers. 3) Take care of your feet!!!! I keep a vacuum sealed pair of socks with me at all times. Blisters can ruin a hunt. Keep athletic tape, moleskin, band-aides, etc. with you. 4) I like a good pair of hiking boots over anything else I've tried. Make sure they are waterproof and broken in before hand. 5) Your sleeping bag will never be too warm 6) There are many equipment lists posted. Review them and make sure you don't need something and not have it. 7) Chapstick is your friend. 8) A quality day pack with a hydration system is EXTREMELY helpful. Stay hydrated!!!!!! 9) When you are climbing, take a few steps and stop for a breath or two, even if you don't feel like you need it. If you get out of breath, it takes longer to recover. 10) A good walking stick can really help. 11) Gore-Tex is also your friend. 12) Pace yourself. Don't over do it the first few days 13) Headaches are common 14) Eat enough to keep you going. You burn a lot of calories out there.
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2852963
07/16/19 12:55 PM
07/16/19 12:55 PM
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Posts: 3,387 Centreville
weatherby
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As stated before, getting in shape is paramount. I bought an altitude training mask and used it for 6 months, religiously. 11k feet still kicked my ass. I'm with Outback, if you are toting a rifle, no need for extra weight of a pistol. Snakes at higher altitudes are almost non-existent, and you would rather shoot bears/mt lions with a rifle. If you are hiking in and camping......eliminate as much weight as possible.
If Caitlyn Jenner can keep his wiener and be considered a woman, I can keep my guns and be considered disarmed!
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: Big Game Hunter]
#2852967
07/16/19 12:57 PM
07/16/19 12:57 PM
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Posts: 4,619 Bay Minette, AL
scrubbuck
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Leave the handgun at home. Get in the best shape you can and I don't mean bench pressing. Walking/climbing/running/etc. Buy the best clothing you can afford. (Sitka/Kuiu/First Lite/etc.) It does make a difference regardless of what some might say. Buy a good set of walking sticks. These will be very helpful. Buy a good back pack. A pack frame isn't required but will come in handy if you are successful. If you don't have a set, borrow or buy a good set of binoculars. You will likely use them more than any other piece of equipment. The most important......BOOTS. Buy a good pair of boots TODAY of you don't have them and start wearing them several times a week to get them broken in.
Solid advice 4th season is normally cold with snow. Make sure boots comfortable, waterproof, and built for hiking. Also, you'll want a quality wide brim style hat to keep snow off your neck and collar area.
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: BhamFred]
#2852971
07/16/19 01:02 PM
07/16/19 01:02 PM
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Posts: 42,172 UR 6
top cat
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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you have a rifle, no need for handgun, it will only add weight.
1. get in shape by climbing stairs, stadiums steps...UP and DOWN.
2. see #1
3. see #1
4. again...get in shape.
5. get there a couple days early to acclimate to altitude, you will be out of breath no matter yer shape, but in shape will get you over it faster. Fred nailed it. That was the first thing I thought when I read the post title. Air is thin when you get up high.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: specialk]
#2853027
07/16/19 02:31 PM
07/16/19 02:31 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,247 Oxford, AL. USA
Big Game Hunter
Doesn’t Know His Code
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Doesn’t Know His Code
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During the 4th season hunt the bears will be in the hole. No need to worry. You are more likely to see a black panther here in Alabama than to see a mountain lion in actual mountain lion country.
If you already have a good skin base layer and a merino mid layer; I'd go with a good quality outer layer. I have a few different set ups but for that time of year I'd suggest Kuiu Guide Jacket and Pants. You'll also need some sort of wool/merino shirt.
Another thing would be a good set of rain gear and gaiters.
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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Re: First Elk Hunt Advice
[Re: JDR4Bama]
#2853029
07/16/19 02:33 PM
07/16/19 02:33 PM
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Posts: 1,421 Northwest Alabama
specialk
OP
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8 point
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Just got back from Breckenridge this weekend. We still have a bunch of snow on the mountains that might not be gone before it starts falling. It's been a wet winter and summer so far. One of the wettest I've witnessed. Plan on dealing with snow on the ground as well as falling. Good news is that makes it relatively easy to gather clean water.
What are your plans for shelter? Using a well-equipped base camp or are you taking a shelter along with you?
Got any emergency communications capabilities? Iridium phones come in handy out in the middle of nowhere. There are other options available too. Thanks for the info. The guy I’m going with has access to a private cabin on the unit we are hunting.
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