How does that prove coyotes killed them?
Every year, I haul a dozen dead deer off the road, near my house, and the peach orchard. Does that prove that I killed them?

I knew that was coming.

When deer season is over up here starting in January I will pick up roadkill deer. Take them to woods and wire them in place and put traps around them. I do pretty well with trapping them that way. I also put one out my bathroom window and stake it down. Shoot several that way every year just going to bathroom and looking out the window.

I tend to agree with your line of thinking

I read a study a few years ago that said a high percentage, like 80-90%, of a coyotes diet during fawning season was fawns

For years, I heard many people say yotes don't kill a lot of deer. Bullschitt, I always said. The current research along with anecdotal evidence suggests they are hell on fawns.

I have spent thousands of hours IN the woods during fawning time over the last 25 years. I have seen fawns born dead, dead after two days, stuck in a hole dead, and hung by a back leg dead. I'd estimate that 10-20% of newborn fawns die from non coyote ends. Maybe yotes find them, maybe buzzards do, but yotes are capable of killing a LOT of fawns.

When I worked for the enclosure off 20/59 we had ONE big make note kill 70-80% of one years fawn crop and kill EVERY DAMN FAWN ON THE PROPERTY THE NEXT YEAR. NOT ONE FAWN MADE IT TO TWO MONTHS OLD. NOT ONE. We finally shot and killed the vote , he had escaped every trap, etc that was laid out for him for two years. Habitat was marginal for hiding fawns. Extreme case but it shows what a determined note can do under good(for the vote) conditions. He also killed a number of adult deer also.

Damn Fred, you in the sauce today ?

Spellcheck is active no doubt

fkn spellcheck is taking over....

Them freakin notes is hell I tell ya

Learn to trap the coyotes, trap them hard for 3 years and tell me at the end of those 3 years you don't have more deer, turkeys, rabbits, squirrels and quail!

Bottom line, if you take out predators you'll have and see more game! That's not a theory, that's a fact!

My father in law used to raise goats. Yotes took 30 in one week.

Completely agree because I've experienced this first hand and it does take about three years to see the difference

I don’t dispute that yotes do some damage, but I just don’t subscribe to the shoot them at every opportunity mentality. If someone can do as you’re describing and trap year round, then yes it will make a positive impact. But shooting a handful a year during deer season won’t make a dimes worth of difference.

The public lands that i hunt are ate up with yotes. Especially the wma areas. And i see quite a few in town.

Okay...strange question...are there some circumstances other than availability of food that make a certain area undesirable as hunting grounds for coyotes? We have 55-60 acres, mostly wooded, that adjoins several thousand acres of river bottom that never gets hunted. When we had cameras out, we had about a dozen "resident" does, a few yearlings, and the occasional buck wandering through. Great crop of fawns every year. Over the 3 or 4 years we had cameras out, we had one pic of a coyote...a HUGE male. He was apparently just passing through, though...never saw him again, never found any sign, and never hear any singing at night. After the cameras were removed, we've kept goats, pigs, rabbits, chickens, turkeys, and ducks, and have never had a single animal lost to any predator.

I would add that we used to have 80 additional acres across US84 from this land, and about 20 years ago, I did hear coyotes at night over there. I dinged a dozen and a half or so in about 3 months, and if there were any left, they vacated the area and have never returned.