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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: MTeague] #2734345
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Attacks are prevalent ....life experience is a different matter.


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: Backporch] #2734347
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Originally Posted by Backporch
Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
Originally Posted by Backporch
Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
My grandfather and my dad are freemasons...I used to sit outside the meetings as a little kid and eat supper with them and all...They were all nice to me! I respect the freemasons a lot and all they do for St. Jude


How is good works an indicator of righteousness ...if that is what you are saying?.


Your bias and hatred towards a society that you don't even know about because everyone who is a member is sworn to secrecy. Your negative views are only based upon a very limited number of people's opinions who happen to be jerks that are freemasons. You are pretty much attacking every single comment that doesn't have a negative connotation towards the Freemasons. All I am saying is that my grandfather was a preacher and a good man, and my dad is strong in his walk with Christ and is a great father and man as well. Yes I am biased, but I don't think it's right to judge and organization or secrete society without knowing what they are about and do.


I have not displayed hatred towards masons, I am being inquisitive, I respected my FIL who was 23degree and in no way did I hate him. Anyone can be deceived by a covering.


Touche...yeah neither my grandfather, uncle, or dad have ever really talked about it at all...dad is a 32 degree or somethin, but that is really all I know about it. I just know one of the guys in the lodge let us fish at his place growing up, so that was a definite plus lol


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: MTeague] #2734352
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Gobble4Me757, Why do you suppose you were not recruited?


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: AUstan23] #2734353
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Originally Posted by AUstan23
Still not sure what the masons do based on answers in the thread.


Petition a lodge and find out. Sometimes answers aren't easily obtained if they aren't really desired. The truth is there if you want it.

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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Amway is the commercial version of the Mason's. They can't tell you what the meeting is gonna be about before you attend the meeting.


You might be funny but you are wrong.

Re: Freemasons Post [Re: ford150man] #2734355
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Originally Posted by ford150man
This is the 4th time I’ve typed this because I’ve deleted it 3 times already. I did so because I’ve never pursued membership so I don’t know the inner workings of the organization. Nearly every man in my family, on both sides have been masons. I chose not to follow their path, along with two of my cousins. One of those cousins wanted to be a mason, like his father, my uncle, but his father blackballed him. His father, my uncle, was the text book definition of a pos. He was a womanizer, a thief, a deadbeat dad, and a useless member of society, and everyone knew it. The only reason his son wanted to be a mason was to try and be closer to his dad, to which his dad didn’t want because it interfered with his lifestyle. To listen to his fellow masons though, you’d have thought he was a saint. I knew then, either wasn’t much to them to cover for him or they were pure dumb a$$es. Either way it wasn’t a group I wanted to hang around. As I mentioned above, they are just like anyone else. Some are good people while some are pieces of crap. I find it interesting though that no one that has commented, and is a member, has agreed with that statement, but instead has only talked about how good and upstanding they are. Just like they did with my uncle.


Your experience is not the norm. In fact it is the exception that should of not have happened. I apologize for it occurring.

Those who desire to be Masons are interviewed and normally those things turn up and are caught. Sounds like a lodge came up short. That isn't representative of the practice as a whole but as a tiny subset of the bigger picture.

Re: Freemasons Post [Re: JDR4Bama] #2734356
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Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
Originally Posted by AUstan23
Still not sure what the masons do based on answers in the thread.


Petition a lodge and find out. Sometimes answers aren't easily obtained if they are really desired. The truth is there if you want it.


What is this truth you speak of that is obtained by desire.


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: Backporch] #2734358
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Originally Posted by Backporch
My FIL was all about family and very open to me about his family matters later in his life but I never questioned him about masonry. What is DoA?



DoA is DEADorALIVE, my husband, who has been a member on here longer than myself.


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: Backporch] #2734359
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Originally Posted by Backporch
Gobble4Me757, Why do you suppose you were not recruited?


I am in graduate school for one and two, dad hasn't forced it on me...He has told me that if I am interested than just to let him know...He never brings it up, and I honestly forgot about all of that until this post.


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: TexasHuntress] #2734361
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Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
Originally Posted by Backporch
My FIL was all about family and very open to me about his family matters later in his life but I never questioned him about masonry. What is DoA?



DoA is DEADorALIVE, my husband, who has been a member on here longer than myself.


I agree, any organization that robs openness between man and wife should not be revered.


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: JDR4Bama] #2734362
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Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
Originally Posted by ford150man
This is the 4th time I’ve typed this because I’ve deleted it 3 times already. I did so because I’ve never pursued membership so I don’t know the inner workings of the organization. Nearly every man in my family, on both sides have been masons. I chose not to follow their path, along with two of my cousins. One of those cousins wanted to be a mason, like his father, my uncle, but his father blackballed him. His father, my uncle, was the text book definition of a pos. He was a womanizer, a thief, a deadbeat dad, and a useless member of society, and everyone knew it. The only reason his son wanted to be a mason was to try and be closer to his dad, to which his dad didn’t want because it interfered with his lifestyle. To listen to his fellow masons though, you’d have thought he was a saint. I knew then, either wasn’t much to them to cover for him or they were pure dumb a$$es. Either way it wasn’t a group I wanted to hang around. As I mentioned above, they are just like anyone else. Some are good people while some are pieces of crap. I find it interesting though that no one that has commented, and is a member, has agreed with that statement, but instead has only talked about how good and upstanding they are. Just like they did with my uncle.


Your experience is not the norm. In fact it is the exception that should of not have happened. I apologize for it occurring.

Those who desire to be Masons are interviewed and normally those things turn up and are caught. Sounds like a lodge came up short. That isn't representative of the practice as a whole but as a tiny subset of the bigger picture.


If I may ask, what degree are you?


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Re: Freemasons Post [Re: Backporch] #2734363
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Originally Posted by Backporch
Originally Posted by TexasHuntress
Originally Posted by Backporch
My FIL was all about family and very open to me about his family matters later in his life but I never questioned him about masonry. What is DoA?



DoA is DEADorALIVE, my husband, who has been a member on here longer than myself.


I agree, any organization that robs openness between man and wife should not be revered.


Learn about it then choose to criticize.

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Originally Posted by Backporch
Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
Originally Posted by ford150man
This is the 4th time I’ve typed this because I’ve deleted it 3 times already. I did so because I’ve never pursued membership so I don’t know the inner workings of the organization. Nearly every man in my family, on both sides have been masons. I chose not to follow their path, along with two of my cousins. One of those cousins wanted to be a mason, like his father, my uncle, but his father blackballed him. His father, my uncle, was the text book definition of a pos. He was a womanizer, a thief, a deadbeat dad, and a useless member of society, and everyone knew it. The only reason his son wanted to be a mason was to try and be closer to his dad, to which his dad didn’t want because it interfered with his lifestyle. To listen to his fellow masons though, you’d have thought he was a saint. I knew then, either wasn’t much to them to cover for him or they were pure dumb a$$es. Either way it wasn’t a group I wanted to hang around. As I mentioned above, they are just like anyone else. Some are good people while some are pieces of crap. I find it interesting though that no one that has commented, and is a member, has agreed with that statement, but instead has only talked about how good and upstanding they are. Just like they did with my uncle.


Your experience is not the norm. In fact it is the exception that should of not have happened. I apologize for it occurring.

Those who desire to be Masons are interviewed and normally those things turn up and are caught. Sounds like a lodge came up short. That isn't representative of the practice as a whole but as a tiny subset of the bigger picture.


If I may ask, what degree are you?


Why do you ask? Does it matter as to my opinion? If you are a Mason, then you should hold the same opinion.

Re: Freemasons Post [Re: MTeague] #2734366
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Mystery does have intrigue...would not openness be better?


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Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
Originally Posted by Backporch
Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
Originally Posted by ford150man
This is the 4th time I’ve typed this because I’ve deleted it 3 times already. I did so because I’ve never pursued membership so I don’t know the inner workings of the organization. Nearly every man in my family, on both sides have been masons. I chose not to follow their path, along with two of my cousins. One of those cousins wanted to be a mason, like his father, my uncle, but his father blackballed him. His father, my uncle, was the text book definition of a pos. He was a womanizer, a thief, a deadbeat dad, and a useless member of society, and everyone knew it. The only reason his son wanted to be a mason was to try and be closer to his dad, to which his dad didn’t want because it interfered with his lifestyle. To listen to his fellow masons though, you’d have thought he was a saint. I knew then, either wasn’t much to them to cover for him or they were pure dumb a$$es. Either way it wasn’t a group I wanted to hang around. As I mentioned above, they are just like anyone else. Some are good people while some are pieces of crap. I find it interesting though that no one that has commented, and is a member, has agreed with that statement, but instead has only talked about how good and upstanding they are. Just like they did with my uncle.


Your experience is not the norm. In fact it is the exception that should of not have happened. I apologize for it occurring.

Those who desire to be Masons are interviewed and normally those things turn up and are caught. Sounds like a lodge came up short. That isn't representative of the practice as a whole but as a tiny subset of the bigger picture.


If I may ask, what degree are you?


Why do you ask? Does it matter as to my opinion? If you are a Mason, then you should hold the same opinion.


You could be on to something and this is just a test.


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Originally Posted by Backporch
Mystery does have intrigue...would not openness be better?


Those areas worth obtaining are worth seeking. Times have changed where the desire to recruit new folks have replace the set back and wait attitude. That's unfortunate. Openness may attract the wrong crowd IMO.

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What about the Elks? They seem like a fun group.

Are they the guys that the Masons wouldn't let in?

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I let my membership lapse a number of years ago due to family and work commitments.

I am a past Master of Mt. Signal Lodge #508 in Rock Run, AL, and a Scottish Rite Mason, 32nd Degree.

There is nothing in Masonry that conflicts with Christianity. Naturally, since the members are human, some are certain to be jerks, but most of the ones that I knew and still know, are good people. Many of the founding fathers were Masons.

I sought membership because of what the lodge meant to my grandfather. When I was made a 3rd Degree Mason, I was presented with his Masonic Bible. It is a standard King James Bible, with some extra pages that depict early Masonic art and relate the history of Masons in the world.

I read part of the Wikipedia article about Freemasons, and it appears to be accurate without giving all the details. Secrecy is one of the reasons that people misinterpret, but it is part of the oath taken when you become a member.

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Originally Posted by UncleHuck

I let my membership lapse a number of years ago due to family and work commitments.

I am a past Master of Mt. Signal Lodge #508 in Rock Run, AL, and a Scottish Rite Mason, 32nd Degree.

There is nothing in Masonry that conflicts with Christianity. Naturally, since the members are human, some are certain to be jerks, but most of the ones that I knew and still know, are good people. Many of the founding fathers were Masons.

I sought membership because of what the lodge meant to my grandfather. When I was made a 3rd Degree Mason, I was presented with his Masonic Bible. It is a standard King James Bible, with some extra pages that depict early Masonic art and relate the history of Masons in the world.

I read part of the Wikipedia article about Freemasons, and it appears to be accurate without giving all the details. Secrecy is one of the reasons that people misinterpret, but it is part of the oath taken when you become a member.



Best explanation I've heard so far. Thanks Uncle Buck.

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