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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Sulli]
#2660103
12/02/18 01:28 PM
12/02/18 01:28 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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Diesel fuel is better than corn soaked in pcp laced doe piss. Just hang out by the heavy equipment when they ain't working.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Sulli]
#2660274
12/02/18 06:11 PM
12/02/18 06:11 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,583 Moss Creek
Gotcha1
Bright Eyes
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Bright Eyes
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,583
Moss Creek
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Cutters on our property destroyed cemetery grave sites and individual sites. One cemetery was flagged, and there were no pines in the area. Supposedly there was a Revolutionary War soldier buried there in the flagged hickorys. They cut 100 year old white oaks to get 12 feet of the trunk. They left the rest of the tree on the ground. Ruts are so deep in our SMZ's that there is continuous standing, stagnant water. This goes back to a previous generation that agreed to a timber lease to have money after retirement. Don't know what you can do, but hate f"ing loggers.
Matt Brock wears knock-off Crocs.
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Gotcha1]
#2660316
12/02/18 06:52 PM
12/02/18 06:52 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 14,022 Some Marriott/Auburn
AU7MM08
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 14,022
Some Marriott/Auburn
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Cutters on our property destroyed cemetery grave sites and individual sites. One cemetery was flagged, and there were no pines in the area. Supposedly there was a Revolutionary War soldier buried there in the flagged hickorys. They cut 100 year old white oaks to get 12 feet of the trunk. They left the rest of the tree on the ground. Ruts are so deep in our SMZ's that there is continuous standing, stagnant water. This goes back to a previous generation that agreed to a timber lease to have money after retirement. Don't know what you can do, but hate f"ing loggers.
That is terrible. I understand production volume is important to stay afloat from their perspective but having respect for people/property is absolutely important.
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Sulli]
#2660577
12/02/18 09:26 PM
12/02/18 09:26 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,382 Andalusia
sanderson
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,382
Andalusia
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Serval examples of why everyone that works in timber business hates deer hunters
3 things that define what kind of person a man is: women, money, and deer
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: sanderson]
#2660593
12/02/18 09:34 PM
12/02/18 09:34 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
N. Bama
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Serval examples of why everyone that works in timber business hates deer hunters Farming too. Hunters rut up roads, throw out trash and piss of neighbors. Folks wonder why they can't just pull up and get permission then call the father an asshole for saying no to them. Reason why
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Sulli]
#2660947
12/03/18 10:44 AM
12/03/18 10:44 AM
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Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,620 Alabama
Rmart30
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,620
Alabama
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Have almost never had a good experience with loggers. The only ones I have seen done right and left the area and roads better than when found it were from a company with their own timber crew. They fixed all the roads, did water bars and turn outs and graveled the bad spots. The rest have done very crappy unless the landowner stayed on them.
Currently I could fill a 16 ft trailer with all the bad tires and empty 5 gal buckets and oil jugs left behind we have found thrown off in the woods, rolled down into ditches or covered in limb piles. Oil changes done out on the ground. Some were done over small brush piles then with old filters and all burned. On property behind locked gates and no other access way off the main road have had skidder trails on a thinning job go right beside stands and later found the cables or locks cut with a torch and stands gone. Had a miles worth of old power poles from a dead line the power co had came and pulled up and gave to us when they left. Those disappeared. Culvert pipes disappeared. Old gates or posts out thru the property gone. Cross ties gone. Had a hill well outside of their flagged boundary going out thru a long kudzu patch we just the yr before had finally gotten a dozer rented and side cut the hill and deep crowned the road so it would last a long time. Skidder for some reason ended up out in the kudzu patch and with his blade down went down the road and took all the crown off the road filling in the ditches. Was no reason for him to even be out there and dang sure no reason to blade it flat. I cringe everytime i hear that loggers are or might be coming.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: rulebreaker]
#2661025
12/03/18 12:07 PM
12/03/18 12:07 PM
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,230 Semmes, AL
HippieKiller
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,230
Semmes, AL
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What continues to be overlooked in this episode is that it was a 'lock on' stand. Lock on stands typically are not easily noticed by anyone, much less loggers. I hate that you lost your stuff but I can see how easily it would be for a stumper not to even notice it. Yep! That is why I use bright orange ratchet straps on all of my lock-ons (and ladders for that matter). I also wrap the tree with the excess to make it as visible as possible. It may not make a difference, but then again, it just may. I know it has saved me in the past. I also put a little piece of flagging a couple of feet above my cameras if they are in an area I think may get visited by the crew.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Sorry loggers get me again
[Re: Sulli]
#2661031
12/03/18 12:11 PM
12/03/18 12:11 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,777 Athens, GA
WildlifeBiologist
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,777
Athens, GA
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A good forester gives the hunt club advance notice. I deal with several who routinely email me ahead of time and include a detailed stand map. This way I have time to secure stands, cameras and other valuables before loggers show up. Good communication is key.
Micah 6:8
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