The only other explanation that I can think of for such different attitudes is that all of us in AL are just rednecks, and the rest of the country is totally different from us. There might be something to that idea too.

Then you have those that claim they don't hunt them at all.

And others that don't kill 5 in 45 days

My theory has always been that low limits and short seasons keep most states from ever developing good turkey hunters and a turkey hunting culture. I have always thought the AL system was far more beneficial to the resource. When people consider their turkeys a treasure, they will do everything they can to help them thrive. I hate to see us moving in the direction of being like other states. Instead of copying them, we should be preaching to them and helping them understand that AL has the best system for the resource.

If this all true, then I would like to lower our bag limit to ONE and shorten the season.
We've created a turkey hunting fad, just like deer hunting, and now we have waaaaay too many morons trolling around with an owl hooter. Personally I think PA sounds like a turkey hunters dream.

I think Chuck sees it the way you do and wants to take us in that direction. He thinks more people will hunt if it's easy and he will sell more licenses. Since AL already has this culture, I don't think it will work very well. We have created too many Frankenstein turkey killers, and if they perceive that the regulations are unreasonable they will ignore them. We are already seeing some of that, and there would be a whole lot more if we copy PA.

Over time, as the Frankenstein types die out, more people would likely follow the law. And then I think we would see the fallacy of government trying to regulate more turkeys into existence. If people can't hunt them, the turkeys won't exist at the levels we have them now. The typical paper company land has a few turkeys on it, but good turkey habitat requires human intervention. I kill a few every year, but I think I grow way more than I kill, and that benefits everyone around me. All of that will stop if I can no longer hunt them.

Or maybe not. It could be that there is nothing that could be done by the government at this point to stop Frankenstein. Outback, I don't think it's just a fad here. Obsession is not a strong enough word either.

IF....IF we go the direction of other states and say a 1 bird limit, how much habitat enhancement and predator control would landowners/Turkey hunters be willing to do for 1 bird? I don't know but I do know it would not increase the efforts. Probably decrease and I just can't see where decreased efforts will benefit the game animal whether we are talking turkey, deer, or whatever.

I had a guy pull up on us out of state, and he proceeded to tell us to kill them all. He was saying to shoot em from the truck in the tree or whatever it takes.

If this all true, then I would like to lower our bag limit to ONE and shorten the season.
We've created a turkey hunting fad, just like deer hunting, and now we have waaaaay too many morons trolling around with an owl hooter. Personally I think PA sounds like a turkey hunters dream.

Wow. I woulda never thought I'd hear an AL turkey hunter say that. But you got me thinking a little more about PA. I tagged my first one early in the season, then put my second tag on hold until this week. In the mean time, I was out with wife/son/friends just so I could hunt without filling my second tag. Even had a chance to double one day with them but passed thinking it might be more fun to come back and fool with him some other day. All this without crossing paths with another hunter or paying a lease.

Or maybe we are both caught up in the grass-is-always-greener syndrome and maybe I should be careful what I wish for.

Never said he was going to stop at one. He just wants the woods thinned out of hunters. We all would like to have 5000 acres all to ourselves and then we can discuss that limit of one.

Heck you don't have to go to the Midwest. Lots of TN thinks that way too