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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: rulebreaker]
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02/09/18 01:20 PM
02/09/18 01:20 PM
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kjoe
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And around and around we go!! If people would put in the amount of effort learning how to hunt that they do whining, crying and whining and crying about finding the easiest, laziest way to kill a deer they would actually see and kill more and better deer. But carry on learning nothing than where the cheapest place to buy corn!! Woodmanship be damned!! Amen! I agree wholeheartedly. Baiting good should illegal, period. A stiff fine and some jail time would provide adequate prevention. I'm with this crowd. Hillary and Pelosi like stuff like that too.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/09/18 03:19 PM
02/09/18 03:19 PM
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UncleHuck
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To me, it seems like corn and food plots serve the same function. Attract and hold deer near or at the location where they will be hunted
So the State allows folks who can afford a tractor, a lease or property, fertilizer, and seed, to plant food plots and then hunt over them. The State also forbids Billy Bob, who works at the paper mill and only has access to public land or small private tracts, to scatter corn and hunt over that.
Years ago, I hunted a mountainside where there were oak trees with very large, sweet acorns. More than once, I saw deer walk past other oaks to crowd at the base of the trees with the sweet acorns. Shot several there. Was I hunting over bait? They were obviously there for the food, and were rejecting other food sources to get to the trees where I was hunting.
Seems to be a little elitist to me, and I own property with food plots on it, and a large amount of oaks, hickories and other food sources.
I also don't understand why anyone would be bothered by other folks hunting over bait/feeders/food plots/big acorn crop. The deer are coming to the food. It shouldn't matter whether the food is natural or introduced, you are still, in effect, hunting over a food source. If you don't want to scatter corn, then don't.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/09/18 03:40 PM
02/09/18 03:40 PM
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wareaglewill
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spike
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If the bill is voted down you can just thank men like senator Paul Bussman who when i asked about this bill said he would vote it down because its not "hunting". He then proceeded to say that the current bill of 100 FEET was considered hunting, I just shook my head and walked away.
"If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting."- Aristotle
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: UncleHuck]
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02/09/18 04:59 PM
02/09/18 04:59 PM
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dirkdaddy
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To me, it seems like corn and food plots serve the same function. Attract and hold deer near or at the location where they will be hunted
So the State allows folks who can afford a tractor, a lease or property, fertilizer, and seed, to plant food plots and then hunt over them. The State also forbids Billy Bob, who works at the paper mill and only has access to public land or small private tracts, to scatter corn and hunt over that.
Years ago, I hunted a mountainside where there were oak trees with very large, sweet acorns. More than once, I saw deer walk past other oaks to crowd at the base of the trees with the sweet acorns. Shot several there. Was I hunting over bait? They were obviously there for the food, and were rejecting other food sources to get to the trees where I was hunting.
Seems to be a little elitist to me, and I own property with food plots on it, and a large amount of oaks, hickories and other food sources.
I also don't understand why anyone would be bothered by other folks hunting over bait/feeders/food plots/big acorn crop. The deer are coming to the food. It shouldn't matter whether the food is natural or introduced, you are still, in effect, hunting over a food source. If you don't want to scatter corn, then don't. I've been hesitant to post this as I didn't want to ruffle too many feathers, but you took the words right out of my mouth. The corn policy in this state smacks of moneyed elitism to the extreme. And this is coming from someone who has access to a few tractors and nearly every small farm implement you can imagine.
Last edited by dirkdaddy; 02/09/18 05:00 PM.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: outdoors1]
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02/09/18 06:47 PM
02/09/18 06:47 PM
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therealhojo
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So our officers wrote five times more tickets/time chasing corn toters than night hunters. Now a few could have been putting out corn at night I get that, but probably not as many caught at night as hunting during day over corn. Now you know why you couldn't find a game warden at night or day they were tired from chasing corn toters during day and had to take off! You’re assuming that all the tickets were deer hunting over corn. What about Turkey and Dove tickets. Heck, 1 warden could write multiple tickets on 1 dove field.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: therealhojo]
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02/09/18 07:04 PM
02/09/18 07:04 PM
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jawbone
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Does that include dove fields, and turkey? The state can't change the baiting illegality for migratory birds as that is federal law. It would just lessen the number of GWs you would have to worry about unless the state guys started taking their cases to federal court instead of district court.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: outdoors1]
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02/09/18 07:10 PM
02/09/18 07:10 PM
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kjoe
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So our officers wrote five times more tickets/time chasing corn toters than night hunters. Now a few could have been putting out corn at night I get that, but probably not as many caught at night as hunting during day over corn. Now you know why you couldn't find a game warden at night or day they were tired from chasing corn toters during day and had to take off! And those same game wardens were writing permits for other people to hunt over corn.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: jawbone]
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02/09/18 07:18 PM
02/09/18 07:18 PM
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therealhojo
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Does that include dove fields, and turkey? The state can't change the baiting illegality for migratory birds as that is federal law. It would just lessen the number of GWs you would have to worry about unless the state guys started taking their cases to federal court instead of district court. That’s kinda my point. To argue deer baiting you would have to know the number of actual tickets written for hunting deer. It might be 1/3 or 1/2 or 3/4, but it can’t be all 400,000. Or am I wrong in my thinking? Is that 400,000 number just for deer hunting? I would think they lump them all together.
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