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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 11:43 AM
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No sir!! The "NO" turkey hunting the month of March would be a deal breaker for me no doubt about it. Also the amount of pressure by small game/hog hunters from Oct - Dec could possibly ruin the deer hunting for the month of Jan. and 10 days in Feb.
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life.
Comes to us at midnight very clean.
It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 12:00 PM
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Yes, if it had enough quail to warrant keeping pointers. The cost would depend on the open acreage that I could follow the dogs over. I would join a club exclusively for small game, with limited deer hunting. As the small game seasons are out, turkey hunting would be great, especially since they can co-exist with quail and other small game. For enough land to support 20-30 coveys I would spend the same as you spend on a deer lease. I enjoy deer hunting, but I really miss a good quail hunt with wild birds and good dogs.
Kids today are taken out to sit in a deer stand way too early in my opinion and they never learn how to hunt. A good squirrel hunt will teach a child more about how to hunt than sitting in a stand, playing a video game on his phone and just waiting for a deer of some kind to walk into the green field and stop to eat the "supplemental deer feed (corn)". How does he (or she ) learn to spot an animal in the woods, to slip silently from tree to tree and pause to listen and see, and how to hit a moving squirrel off handed? To watch a bunch of beagles hit a hot rabbit track and start baying? Or how not to mess his pants when a covey of 20 quail flushes right under his feet, and how to work with his dog to find singles?
Sure deer hunting can be a wonderful experience, but how many will experience being dropped off on your stand deep in the river bottom, with an icy fog settling low along the ground? and by stand I mean a tree that you stand by on ground level. then you hear the whoops and the dogs as the drive starts, you are there alone, and you know that it is up to you to put your shotgun up when the deer magically appear, some running hell for leather, but then again there is the big racked buck slipping around waiting for the dogs to go by. The best time to spot a deer on a dog hunt is when the morning coffee hits and you lean your gun against a tree and have just started to take a well deserved piss, then ol' ten point runs by so close that you could touch him and you wet your pants and cotton long johns trying to grab your gun, and you drop it and when you get it up and and swing and shoot and miss your heart almost bursts. And maybe a spike is just behind him and maybe you get him but probably not because you are still breathing too hard from the one you missed first. Then you wait for the wagon to come by to take you to lunch and a nap maybe before going back out at late afternoon, and watch the dark sift in and the ground fog sends it tendrils between the trees and an owl starts up and everything is as quiet as a funeral home,
And if you do get one you get your shirt tail nailed to the barn and everyone claps you on the back, and if you shoot and miss, you bend over the table with the men and get a lick with a boat paddle for scaring the deer and everyone laughs. And you know you are a man ( an young man who still does the dishes and carries the fire wood and cleans the deer) among men. But still too young for a snort from the mason jar.
Man, that was deer hunting, and it's gone now.
Hunting deer over green fields and corn is deer killing, but won't make a hunter of you or you boy.
But to each his own. I would not take todays deer hunting away from my grandson for anything. But he will never know the joy of hunting in the old days when deer were scarce and rabbits and quail and squirrels ruled.
Happy New Year Brothers
Judge
Let us cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees
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Hug your loved ones often, Life is short even on its longest days.
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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 12:37 PM
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Prattville AL
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The response is exactly what I expected. The mighty whitetail and turkey rule the outdoors in Alabama.
I do think our kids are missing out on learning a lot about the outdoors though. I grew up chasing squirrels, rabbits, dove, and quail. Kids start out deer hunting nowadays and never get to enjoy all the small game.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 12:45 PM
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Sylacauga
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The response is exactly what I expected. The mighty whitetail and turkey rule the outdoors in Alabama.
I do think our kids are missing out on learning a lot about the outdoors though. I grew up chasing squirrels, rabbits, dove, and quail. Kids start out deer hunting nowadays and never get to enjoy all the small game. I agree with you but I’m guilty of starting my kids out with deer also. Not because I wanted to skip the small game but just because I no longer hunt them myself except the occasional squirrel in the yard. They are content with chasing deer around so I’ll consider that a success for now.
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Re: Would you?
[Re: judge sharpe]
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12/27/17 02:09 PM
12/27/17 02:09 PM
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Yes, if it had enough quail to warrant keeping pointers. The cost would depend on the open acreage that I could follow the dogs over. I would join a club exclusively for small game, with limited deer hunting. As the small game seasons are out, turkey hunting would be great, especially since they can co-exist with quail and other small game. For enough land to support 20-30 coveys I would spend the same as you spend on a deer lease. I enjoy deer hunting, but I really miss a good quail hunt with wild birds and good dogs.
Kids today are taken out to sit in a deer stand way too early in my opinion and they never learn how to hunt. A good squirrel hunt will teach a child more about how to hunt than sitting in a stand, playing a video game on his phone and just waiting for a deer of some kind to walk into the green field and stop to eat the "supplemental deer feed (corn)". How does he (or she ) learn to spot an animal in the woods, to slip silently from tree to tree and pause to listen and see, and how to hit a moving squirrel off handed? To watch a bunch of beagles hit a hot rabbit track and start baying? Or how not to mess his pants when a covey of 20 quail flushes right under his feet, and how to work with his dog to find singles?
Sure deer hunting can be a wonderful experience, but how many will experience being dropped off on your stand deep in the river bottom, with an icy fog settling low along the ground? and by stand I mean a tree that you stand by on ground level. then you hear the whoops and the dogs as the drive starts, you are there alone, and you know that it is up to you to put your shotgun up when the deer magically appear, some running hell for leather, but then again there is the big racked buck slipping around waiting for the dogs to go by. The best time to spot a deer on a dog hunt is when the morning coffee hits and you lean your gun against a tree and have just started to take a well deserved piss, then ol' ten point runs by so close that you could touch him and you wet your pants and cotton long johns trying to grab your gun, and you drop it and when you get it up and and swing and shoot and miss your heart almost bursts. And maybe a spike is just behind him and maybe you get him but probably not because you are still breathing too hard from the one you missed first. Then you wait for the wagon to come by to take you to lunch and a nap maybe before going back out at late afternoon, and watch the dark sift in and the ground fog sends it tendrils between the trees and an owl starts up and everything is as quiet as a funeral home,
And if you do get one you get your shirt tail nailed to the barn and everyone claps you on the back, and if you shoot and miss, you bend over the table with the men and get a lick with a boat paddle for scaring the deer and everyone laughs. And you know you are a man ( an young man who still does the dishes and carries the fire wood and cleans the deer) among men. But still too young for a snort from the mason jar.
Man, that was deer hunting, and it's gone now.
Hunting deer over green fields and corn is deer killing, but won't make a hunter of you or you boy.
But to each his own. I would not take todays deer hunting away from my grandson for anything. But he will never know the joy of hunting in the old days when deer were scarce and rabbits and quail and squirrels ruled.
Happy New Year Brothers
Judge This is one of the most awesome posts I have read on here.
Last edited by Driveby; 12/27/17 02:10 PM.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: Would you?
[Re: Driveby]
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12/27/17 02:20 PM
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Mobile, AL
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Yes, if it had enough quail to warrant keeping pointers. The cost would depend on the open acreage that I could follow the dogs over. I would join a club exclusively for small game, with limited deer hunting. As the small game seasons are out, turkey hunting would be great, especially since they can co-exist with quail and other small game. For enough land to support 20-30 coveys I would spend the same as you spend on a deer lease. I enjoy deer hunting, but I really miss a good quail hunt with wild birds and good dogs.
Kids today are taken out to sit in a deer stand way too early in my opinion and they never learn how to hunt. A good squirrel hunt will teach a child more about how to hunt than sitting in a stand, playing a video game on his phone and just waiting for a deer of some kind to walk into the green field and stop to eat the "supplemental deer feed (corn)". How does he (or she ) learn to spot an animal in the woods, to slip silently from tree to tree and pause to listen and see, and how to hit a moving squirrel off handed? To watch a bunch of beagles hit a hot rabbit track and start baying? Or how not to mess his pants when a covey of 20 quail flushes right under his feet, and how to work with his dog to find singles?
Sure deer hunting can be a wonderful experience, but how many will experience being dropped off on your stand deep in the river bottom, with an icy fog settling low along the ground? and by stand I mean a tree that you stand by on ground level. then you hear the whoops and the dogs as the drive starts, you are there alone, and you know that it is up to you to put your shotgun up when the deer magically appear, some running hell for leather, but then again there is the big racked buck slipping around waiting for the dogs to go by. The best time to spot a deer on a dog hunt is when the morning coffee hits and you lean your gun against a tree and have just started to take a well deserved piss, then ol' ten point runs by so close that you could touch him and you wet your pants and cotton long johns trying to grab your gun, and you drop it and when you get it up and and swing and shoot and miss your heart almost bursts. And maybe a spike is just behind him and maybe you get him but probably not because you are still breathing too hard from the one you missed first. Then you wait for the wagon to come by to take you to lunch and a nap maybe before going back out at late afternoon, and watch the dark sift in and the ground fog sends it tendrils between the trees and an owl starts up and everything is as quiet as a funeral home,
And if you do get one you get your shirt tail nailed to the barn and everyone claps you on the back, and if you shoot and miss, you bend over the table with the men and get a lick with a boat paddle for scaring the deer and everyone laughs. And you know you are a man ( an young man who still does the dishes and carries the fire wood and cleans the deer) among men. But still too young for a snort from the mason jar.
Man, that was deer hunting, and it's gone now.
Hunting deer over green fields and corn is deer killing, but won't make a hunter of you or you boy.
But to each his own. I would not take todays deer hunting away from my grandson for anything. But he will never know the joy of hunting in the old days when deer were scarce and rabbits and quail and squirrels ruled.
Happy New Year Brothers
Judge This is one of the most awesome posts I have read on here. I agree! Except for the part where the creepy old men spank the teenage boy. That part was awkward... Yeah I didn't grow up hunting at that place.
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Re: Would you?
[Re: Driveby]
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12/27/17 02:32 PM
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Yes, if it had enough quail to warrant keeping pointers. The cost would depend on the open acreage that I could follow the dogs over. I would join a club exclusively for small game, with limited deer hunting. As the small game seasons are out, turkey hunting would be great, especially since they can co-exist with quail and other small game. For enough land to support 20-30 coveys I would spend the same as you spend on a deer lease. I enjoy deer hunting, but I really miss a good quail hunt with wild birds and good dogs.
Kids today are taken out to sit in a deer stand way too early in my opinion and they never learn how to hunt. A good squirrel hunt will teach a child more about how to hunt than sitting in a stand, playing a video game on his phone and just waiting for a deer of some kind to walk into the green field and stop to eat the "supplemental deer feed (corn)". How does he (or she ) learn to spot an animal in the woods, to slip silently from tree to tree and pause to listen and see, and how to hit a moving squirrel off handed? To watch a bunch of beagles hit a hot rabbit track and start baying? Or how not to mess his pants when a covey of 20 quail flushes right under his feet, and how to work with his dog to find singles?
Sure deer hunting can be a wonderful experience, but how many will experience being dropped off on your stand deep in the river bottom, with an icy fog settling low along the ground? and by stand I mean a tree that you stand by on ground level. then you hear the whoops and the dogs as the drive starts, you are there alone, and you know that it is up to you to put your shotgun up when the deer magically appear, some running hell for leather, but then again there is the big racked buck slipping around waiting for the dogs to go by. The best time to spot a deer on a dog hunt is when the morning coffee hits and you lean your gun against a tree and have just started to take a well deserved piss, then ol' ten point runs by so close that you could touch him and you wet your pants and cotton long johns trying to grab your gun, and you drop it and when you get it up and and swing and shoot and miss your heart almost bursts. And maybe a spike is just behind him and maybe you get him but probably not because you are still breathing too hard from the one you missed first. Then you wait for the wagon to come by to take you to lunch and a nap maybe before going back out at late afternoon, and watch the dark sift in and the ground fog sends it tendrils between the trees and an owl starts up and everything is as quiet as a funeral home,
And if you do get one you get your shirt tail nailed to the barn and everyone claps you on the back, and if you shoot and miss, you bend over the table with the men and get a lick with a boat paddle for scaring the deer and everyone laughs. And you know you are a man ( an young man who still does the dishes and carries the fire wood and cleans the deer) among men. But still too young for a snort from the mason jar.
Man, that was deer hunting, and it's gone now.
Hunting deer over green fields and corn is deer killing, but won't make a hunter of you or you boy.
But to each his own. I would not take todays deer hunting away from my grandson for anything. But he will never know the joy of hunting in the old days when deer were scarce and rabbits and quail and squirrels ruled.
Happy New Year Brothers
Judge This is one of the most awesome posts I have read on here. X2...I remember em well. They gone !
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Re: Would you?
[Re: Cummins]
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12/27/17 02:49 PM
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Thomasville, AL
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Yes, if it had enough quail to warrant keeping pointers. The cost would depend on the open acreage that I could follow the dogs over. I would join a club exclusively for small game, with limited deer hunting. As the small game seasons are out, turkey hunting would be great, especially since they can co-exist with quail and other small game. For enough land to support 20-30 coveys I would spend the same as you spend on a deer lease. I enjoy deer hunting, but I really miss a good quail hunt with wild birds and good dogs.
Kids today are taken out to sit in a deer stand way too early in my opinion and they never learn how to hunt. A good squirrel hunt will teach a child more about how to hunt than sitting in a stand, playing a video game on his phone and just waiting for a deer of some kind to walk into the green field and stop to eat the "supplemental deer feed (corn)". How does he (or she ) learn to spot an animal in the woods, to slip silently from tree to tree and pause to listen and see, and how to hit a moving squirrel off handed? To watch a bunch of beagles hit a hot rabbit track and start baying? Or how not to mess his pants when a covey of 20 quail flushes right under his feet, and how to work with his dog to find singles?
Sure deer hunting can be a wonderful experience, but how many will experience being dropped off on your stand deep in the river bottom, with an icy fog settling low along the ground? and by stand I mean a tree that you stand by on ground level. then you hear the whoops and the dogs as the drive starts, you are there alone, and you know that it is up to you to put your shotgun up when the deer magically appear, some running hell for leather, but then again there is the big racked buck slipping around waiting for the dogs to go by. The best time to spot a deer on a dog hunt is when the morning coffee hits and you lean your gun against a tree and have just started to take a well deserved piss, then ol' ten point runs by so close that you could touch him and you wet your pants and cotton long johns trying to grab your gun, and you drop it and when you get it up and and swing and shoot and miss your heart almost bursts. And maybe a spike is just behind him and maybe you get him but probably not because you are still breathing too hard from the one you missed first. Then you wait for the wagon to come by to take you to lunch and a nap maybe before going back out at late afternoon, and watch the dark sift in and the ground fog sends it tendrils between the trees and an owl starts up and everything is as quiet as a funeral home,
And if you do get one you get your shirt tail nailed to the barn and everyone claps you on the back, and if you shoot and miss, you bend over the table with the men and get a lick with a boat paddle for scaring the deer and everyone laughs. And you know you are a man ( an young man who still does the dishes and carries the fire wood and cleans the deer) among men. But still too young for a snort from the mason jar.
Man, that was deer hunting, and it's gone now.
Hunting deer over green fields and corn is deer killing, but won't make a hunter of you or you boy.
But to each his own. I would not take todays deer hunting away from my grandson for anything. But he will never know the joy of hunting in the old days when deer were scarce and rabbits and quail and squirrels ruled.
Happy New Year Brothers
Judge This is one of the most awesome posts I have read on here. X2...I remember em well. They gone ! Here speaks a man who has truly lived!!!! OMG how I miss those days and the wild rush of emotions that they brought!!
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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 02:50 PM
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Athens, GA
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Kids start out deer hunting nowadays and never get to enjoy all the small game. Every man puts his priorities exactly where they are. If it is a high enough priority to parents/grandparents, then they will provide small game hunting experiences for the budding young hunters in the family.
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Re: Would you?
[Re: ElkHunter]
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12/27/17 02:54 PM
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No. I enjoy squirrel hunting and wish I had more time to enjoy it. It makes you a better hunter IMHO. I'm also scouting for early season deer and I've seen many deer through the years slippin' through the woods looking for tree rats. But I'm not going to give up half of my deer season for small game.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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