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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Haybale] #2286467
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Originally Posted By: Haybale

Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Got one. Thinking bout a mulcher.
dogs if you get one I would love to cut down one tree with it. laugh


You got it.



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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286471
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Robert I don't envy your job. Years ago I knew everyone who came in the local John Deere store. I knew everyone working there and I knew everyone who came in there. I would hang around and sometimes just sit and BS for an hour or two.
But now, there's so many sandal wearing, Panama Jack's come in there looking for a padded seat cushion for their new kiddy tractor. They just bought 1.25 acres in the middle of town and call it a farm.
I actually went to show one of them how to connect his new post hole digger to his tractor a few weeks ago.
He bought a post hole digger and had no clue how to connect or use it. He couldn't figure out that it Replaces the center link. He was trying to connect TO THE CENTER LINK.

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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286475
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Originally Posted By: Out back
Robert I don't envy your job. Years ago I knew everyone who came in the local John Deere store. I knew everyone working there and I knew everyone who came in there. I would hang around and sometimes just sit and BS for an hour or two.
But now, there's so many sandal wearing, Panama Jack's come in there looking for a padded seat cushion for their new kiddy tractor. They just bought 1.25 acres in the middle of town and call it a farm.
I actually went to show one of them how to connect his new post hole digger to his tractor a few weeks ago.
He bought a post hole digger and had no clue how to connect or use it. He couldn't figure out that it Replaces the center link. He was trying to connect TO THE CENTER LINK.
Their money is just as green.

Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: toothdoc] #2286499
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Originally Posted By: toothdoc
Their money is just as green.

Didn't you read how I helped one of them with his new post hole digger?
I'm cheerful dammit!
I'm cheerful and spreading good will.


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286511
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You mean to tell me running equipment in sandals is a bad thing? Lol

Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: hawgwild] #2286514
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Originally Posted By: hawgwild
You mean to tell me running equipment in sandals is a bad thing? Lol


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286520
11/09/17 02:54 AM
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I got a cab and AC. Radio to. Don't wear sandals though. That's for yuppies.


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: jaredhunts] #2286525
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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
I got a cab and AC. Radio to. Don't wear sandals though. That's for yuppies.


Phil Robertson would approve this message..... thumbup


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286528
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$150/hour is a bargain, for such work ...


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: jaredhunts] #2286535
11/09/17 03:14 AM
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I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?


All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2286542
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Is it possible?

Steve, that Kubota Jon's got is 95 hp and the bulk of it dedicated to the cutter.
I'm afraid even your tractor would be underpowered for the mulcher.


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2286545
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?


rofl

Not even close, kinda reminds me of the youtube video of the guy that thought he could jump a creek on a riding lawn mower


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2286549
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?

I hear you on needing higher flow on a FEL. You would need a cab with thick glass to run a mulcher and the radiator might be vulnerable on a tractor. I have seen PTO driven mulchers.

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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Robert D.] #2286559
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Originally Posted By: mark
Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
I'm gonna ask Santa for one.


I'd love to have one but just don't see that there is enough work for one in my area.



I'm assuming the Baldwin County in your bio is old info? We sell several a year in Baldwin County, AL. All Kubota SVL 95-2's like pcamper has but we have been selling Paladin Ground Shark Extreme rotary style heads mostly. They don't do as good a job at mulching the debris into tiny pieces but they're 1/2 to 1/3 the cost and have 4 bush hog style blades versus the carbide teeth on a drum head (lower maintenance costs). We sell both kinds though.

Skid Steer (Compact Track Loader to be specific) machines can be moved with a ton truck and a good trailer (pictured Kubota machine alone is about 12k and head maybe 2500 lbs). Some of the skidder based machines may weigh twice that or more and require a semi truck to move with a lowboy trailer. Different machines for different jobs. If you've got 2-10 acres needing cleared the big machines will usually have an hour minimum and trip charge making that job expensive.

What kills me are all the latter day Frontiersman people we get. They've bought 2-40 acres in Baldwin county and it's so thick Tarzan could swing through it. They will (or want to) buy a little 30-40 hp compact tractor and loader (weighing 3200 lbs plus loader) and a cheap box blade and bush hog and now they think they're going to "clean up" their place.

They will absolutely DESTROY a $20k tractor over a year or two doing a job they could have hired done for $3500-4000 and had done in a week. But if you ask, they'll tell you they are SAVING money. Blows my mind.

Had one today. Guy has a 23 hp SUB compact tractor with a little 4' light duty bush hog (only kind they make in 4' size to my knowledge). He was HIRED any a contractor to clear a 2 acre property. Grown up in head high crap. Wants to know how big a stuff his cutter will take. 1" maximum is my reply.

I suggested Roundup all of it, then burn, to reduce the volume of material.

"How long will Roundup take?" (He has a lawn maintenance company and doesn't know this?)

"Can't burn, its right in town". OK, hire a dozer or mulcher I reply.

"Contractor hired ME to do it, don't think he'd pay $2500". Well, contractor is a dumbass I think to myself, for hiring someone with an overgrown lawnmower who doesn't know what to do.

"Do they make a cutter and tractor I could buy to do the job?" He asks.

"Sure, a Brown Tree cutter and maybe an 80-90 hp tractor to turn it, $7-8k for cutter and $35-40k for tractor" I tell him.

"Well, that's cheaper than buying a CTL and mulching head". I tell him good luck and hang up the phone.

I don't feel like the ground shark does as good of job as a mulching head speaking in terms of 1 pass. It takes 2-3 passes to achieve the same results. It does cost a 1/3 and has lower maintenance cost though.

Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: Out back] #2286567
11/09/17 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: Out back
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Is it possible?

Steve, that Kubota Jon's got is 95 hp and the bulk of it dedicated to the cutter.
I'm afraid even your tractor would be underpowered for the mulcher.


Then I just need a smaller mulching head. Does anyone make one that will run off 75 hp?

The Bible says that in the latter days old men will dream dreams. That's what happening here. smile

Still, looks to me like a drawbar mounted high flow pump and head designed to attach to the fel and it would work. Not as fast as a machine like PC has, but I got plenty of time to go slow. I owned a dozer with no cage so I am already good at dodging limbs. I've had several that attacked me like a wild animal, but I always prevailed.


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2286584
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: Out back
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Is it possible?

Steve, that Kubota Jon's got is 95 hp and the bulk of it dedicated to the cutter.
I'm afraid even your tractor would be underpowered for the mulcher.


Then I just need a smaller mulching head. Does anyone make one that will run off 75 hp?

The Bible says that in the latter days old men will dream dreams. That's what happening here. smile

Still, looks to me like a drawbar mounted high flow pump and head designed to attach to the fel and it would work. Not as fast as a machine like PC has, but I got plenty of time to go slow. I owned a dozer with no cage so I am already good at dodging limbs. I've had several that attacked me like a wild animal, but I always prevailed.



What you want to do is possible, just not practical. Think of Forest Gump, "Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time".

You can get a PTO driven pump and mount one to your front end loader. The issue is protection. You would have to build a window (we use bullet resistant Lexan on our CTL doors) and frame up something to hold it. That drum is spinning 1000's of rpm and shooting pieces of debris off at hundreds of MPH. You can dodge bullets as easy as you could that.

By the time you buy the cutter and pump and fabricate your protection you could pay to have what you want to do 3 or 4 times.

Look up a company called Lane Shark. It's a guy in Milton FL who makes a loader mounted 42" cutter head that mounts either flat or at a 90* angle. It will run off the remote on your tractor. It won't cut the same size material or nearly as fast, but I think you alluded to having a little extra time.

That machine will do what you want, but is still dangerous. If you ran it in the flat position and cut something head high it could still throw something back THROUGH you, as well as at you.

Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: jaredhunts] #2286588
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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?

I hear you on needing higher flow on a FEL. You would need a cab with thick glass to run a mulcher and the radiator might be vulnerable on a tractor. I have seen PTO driven mulchers.


So you have seen one set up like I'm talking about? Any idea who made it? Someone oughta sell a kit with a small head, a high flow pump, and all the hoses and connections you would need to do it.

I considered trading my dozer for a skid steer with a mulcher, and even talked to a couple of dealers. All my dozer work was done and I could have really used the skid steer back then. The problem was that there were no used ones around and it would cost way too much to trade for a new one. Used dozers are for sale everywhere, but back then the only way to buy it new.

I really wouldn't have that much use for one now. More than a decade of burning has cleaned the place up pretty well.


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Originally Posted By: RobertD
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: Out back
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher

Is it possible?

Steve, that Kubota Jon's got is 95 hp and the bulk of it dedicated to the cutter.
I'm afraid even your tractor would be underpowered for the mulcher.


Then I just need a smaller mulching head. Does anyone make one that will run off 75 hp?

The Bible says that in the latter days old men will dream dreams. That's what happening here. smile

Still, looks to me like a drawbar mounted high flow pump and head designed to attach to the fel and it would work. Not as fast as a machine like PC has, but I got plenty of time to go slow. I owned a dozer with no cage so I am already good at dodging limbs. I've had several that attacked me like a wild animal, but I always prevailed.



What you want to do is possible, just not practical. Think of Forest Gump, "Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time".

You can get a PTO driven pump and mount one to your front end loader. The issue is protection. You would have to build a window (we use bullet resistant Lexan on our CTL doors) and frame up something to hold it. That drum is spinning 1000's of rpm and shooting pieces of debris off at hundreds of MPH. You can dodge bullets as easy as you could that.

By the time you buy the cutter and pump and fabricate your protection you could pay to have what you want to do 3 or 4 times.

Look up a company called Lane Shark. It's a guy in Milton FL who makes a loader mounted 42" cutter head that mounts either flat or at a 90* angle. It will run off the remote on your tractor. It won't cut the same size material or nearly as fast, but I think you alluded to having a little extra time.

That machine will do what you want, but is still dangerous. If you ran it in the flat position and cut something head high it could still throw something back THROUGH you, as well as at you.


And RobertD crushes my dream. smile

Thanks for the info. I believe you were the one who told me I'd get killed the last time I talked about this, and have been talking about it for years.

I will look into that company, but the time for me really needing one had probably passed.


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Re: Forestry mulcher [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2286600
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?

I hear you on needing higher flow on a FEL. You would need a cab with thick glass to run a mulcher and the radiator might be vulnerable on a tractor. I have seen PTO driven mulchers.


So you have seen one set up like I'm talking about? Any idea who made it? Someone oughta sell a kit with a small head, a high flow pump, and all the hoses and connections you would need to do it.

I considered trading my dozer for a skid steer with a mulcher, and even talked to a couple of dealers. All my dozer work was done and I could have really used the skid steer back then. The problem was that there were no used ones around and it would cost way too much to trade for a new one. Used dozers are for sale everywhere, but back then the only way to buy it new.

I really wouldn't have that much use for one now. More than a decade of burning has cleaned the place up pretty well.


I saw it behind a state tractor on the interstate a few years back. Looked kinda like a tiller but it was a mulcher. I haven't seen one since. www.fecon.com Look at the bull hog.

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Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Originally Posted By: jaredhunts
Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've always thought it should be possible to mount a mulcher on the FEL of my 75 hp tractor. I'd need a high capacity hydraulic pump, but they make those that run off the PTO. Somebody told me I'd be killed the first day if I were ever able to get it to work, but I'd wear my helmet. And I want one. smile

Is it possible?

I hear you on needing higher flow on a FEL. You would need a cab with thick glass to run a mulcher and the radiator might be vulnerable on a tractor. I have seen PTO driven mulchers.


So you have seen one set up like I'm talking about? Any idea who made it? Someone oughta sell a kit with a small head, a high flow pump, and all the hoses and connections you would need to do it.

I considered trading my dozer for a skid steer with a mulcher, and even talked to a couple of dealers. All my dozer work was done and I could have really used the skid steer back then. The problem was that there were no used ones around and it would cost way too much to trade for a new one. Used dozers are for sale everywhere, but back then the only way to buy it new.

I really wouldn't have that much use for one now. More than a decade of burning has cleaned the place up pretty well.


I saw it behind a state tractor on the interstate a few years back. Looked kinda like a tiller but it was a mulcher. I haven't seen one since. www.fecon.com Look at the bull hog.


Thanks, I will look that up.

For anyone interested, here is the company RobertD mentioned:

http://lanesharkusa.com

It doesn't look all that dangerous to me, and they have a video of a guy running one with no protection at all on a really dinky little tractor. And it doesn't require a high flow pump and it costs only $3195. I'm sure Mr. Trump would be glad to help me buy it, but that looks like more of a cutter than a mulcher. It's not quite what I dreamed about, but I'm sure it would be a useful piece of equipment.


All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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