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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/11/17 12:08 PM
10/11/17 12:08 PM
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BhamFred
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I don't think anyone on here thinks she "deserves" getting burned alive, certainly not I. BUT, when you run with trash the odds of something bad happening goes up drastically, esp running with uncivilized black thugs.
Fur, I raised my three daughters like you BUT my youngest (30) is a heroin addict running with the sort of folks that scare you. I just wait for the call that something bad happened. She certainly won't "deserve" anything bad that may happen to her, but when one makes those kind of choices one cannot expect anything good to happen.
May God have mercy on her soul.... and those thugs burn in hell.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: BhamFred]
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10/11/17 12:16 PM
10/11/17 12:16 PM
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my youngest (30) is a heroin addict running with the sort of folks that scare you. Sorry to hear that Fred, I know it has to weigh heavily on you.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/11/17 12:17 PM
10/11/17 12:17 PM
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I stand by my statement, as I lead off with, "Not saying at all that she deserved this". I actually hope that every father that has a daughter reads or shows her this story. I, as well, have a daughter and this is the stuff of nightmares. She was essentially playing Russian Roulette.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: SFC3]
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10/11/17 12:43 PM
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Find it weird that she said "Eric" did it, yet they have someone else on trial for it....I dunno
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: IDOT]
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10/11/17 01:01 PM
10/11/17 01:01 PM
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Find it weird that she said "Eric" did it, yet they have someone else on trial for it....I dunno Scorched vocal chords maybe? Most black folks I know don't go by their real name. Usually some kind of skreet name.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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10/11/17 01:23 PM
10/11/17 01:23 PM
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As a dad of a girl that just turned 15....i'm terrified!! She tells me all the time that I'm to strict on her. I try to explain things like this and how times are different than when I was young. Who you associate with makes a difference for sure but NOBODY deserves what happened to that girl!
In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/11/17 01:58 PM
10/11/17 01:58 PM
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inatree
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Fred we're right there with you. My stepdaughter has been in the same boat. Now she's at Tutwiller for the 2 time. Always in and out of rehab, jail and her girls life.
Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free! I choose to defend my freedom!
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
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10/11/17 02:15 PM
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As a dad of a girl that just turned 15....i'm terrified!! She tells me all the time that I'm to strict on her. I try to explain things like this and how times are different than when I was young. Who you associate with makes a difference for sure but NOBODY deserves what happened to that girl! best advise I can give you is know who she spends time and how they act. Worst influence on teens is other teens.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/11/17 03:51 PM
10/11/17 03:51 PM
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Kids now days are faced with more evil than ever before! I'm glad we had it better!
Every day's a gift !
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
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10/11/17 04:43 PM
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As a dad of a girl that just turned 15....i'm terrified!! She tells me all the time that I'm to strict on her. I try to explain things like this and how times are different than when I was young. Who you associate with makes a difference for sure but NOBODY deserves what happened to that girl! best advise I can give you is know who she spends time and how they act. Worst influence on teens is other teens. Yep, I try to keep a close eye on who she hangs out with but it's tough sometimes.
In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
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10/11/17 04:48 PM
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As a dad of a girl that just turned 15....i'm terrified!! She tells me all the time that I'm to strict on her. I try to explain things like this and how times are different than when I was young. Who you associate with makes a difference for sure but NOBODY deserves what happened to that girl! The hardest part of being a dad to a girl. Knowing the fine line between protective and over protective.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/11/17 04:56 PM
10/11/17 04:56 PM
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inatree
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Social Media, music and tv give our youth a bad impression of what ok in life.
Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free! I choose to defend my freedom!
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: inatree]
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10/11/17 05:11 PM
10/11/17 05:11 PM
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Social Media, music and tv give our youth a bad impression of what ok in life. it's designed that way, pop culture
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
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10/12/17 03:19 AM
10/12/17 03:19 AM
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As a dad of a girl that just turned 15....i'm terrified!! She tells me all the time that I'm to strict on her. I try to explain things like this and how times are different than when I was young. Who you associate with makes a difference for sure but NOBODY deserves what happened to that girl! The hardest part of being a dad to a girl. Knowing the fine line between protective and over protective. I'm always going to be over the line into over protective. I consider it my job. I've let mine make decisions,you have to,but you can't let them make potentially fatal,or life altering decisions and leave it up to their judgment.They are just kids. Their brains aren't equipped to make those judgments yet. My job as a parent is to make those judgments until they are equipped.
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/12/17 03:22 AM
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Don't you think the cheerleaders family wishes they had done more?
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: perchjerker]
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10/12/17 04:09 AM
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Don't you think the cheerleaders family wishes they had done more? As I understand it, they were already very disapproving of who she was associating with. At 20 years old, there wasn't a whole lot they could do about it. We live in a culture where, for some reason, young and pretty white females believe they are bullet-proof.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Mississippi cheerleader
[Re: mzzy]
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10/12/17 05:45 AM
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I think the guy is a POS lying murderer (killed another girl in LA after this one), but I'm not so sure he killed this one - at least alone. The whole thing about the girl telling the Firemen "Eric did this" and when asked if she knew Eric's last name, responding "No" when she supposedly knew the defendant's name. I think he was involved, and possibly even raped her, but had an accomplice who may have helped or actually been the one to set her on fire. https://lawnewz.com/live-trials/live-tri...ing-statements/... Champion said Chambers and Tellis were friends for about two weeks. Chambers was trying to text another friend, Kesha Myers, with whom she was planning to spend time. Chambers couldnt reach Kesha, however, because the pre-paid phone Myers used had run out of minutes and data, Champion said.
Champion argued that at this point, Chambers and Tellis started riding around and eventually went to Taco Bell to get food. Chambers and Tellis wound up back at the defendants house. Tellis claimed they were in his driveway, but Champion says the cell data indicates they were really in an area south of his house at around 6:30 p.m. Chambers made one call to her mother around 6:45 p.m.
At 7:26, a set of headlights left the defendants driveway area and headed south on Highway 51. At the same time, Jessicas phone began to move in the same direction. Less than a mile away from the defendants residence, Champion said that the defendant and Chambers turned west onto Main Street and eventually into an area that leads towards a set of hunting camps.
Thats where, at around 8:04 or 8:06 p.m., a man called the local 911 center to report a car on fire.
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A very small piece of Chambers bra tested positive at an ATF lab for gasoline, which prosecutors believe was the accelerant used to set both Chambers and her car on fire.
Then, about an eighth of a mile from the burn area, a passerby found Chambers car keys. The keys tested positive for the defendants DNA, Champion told the jury.
When initially questioned about what happened, the defendant claimed he had been with Jessica Chambers the morning of the day she was set on fire, but later had gone to buy a money transfer card known as a Green Dot Card. He said he was going to be sending money to his girlfriend in Monroe, Louisiana.
Later, under FBI questioning, Tellis admitted to having sex with Chambers shortly before her death in an area near his home where cell phone tower records can place both the victims and the defendants phones. Tellis said the sex occurred in the passenger seat of the victims car, which was placed in a laid back position. The victims burned car was later found with the passenger seat in such a position, Champion told the jury. Tellis also told the FBI he kept a five-gallon can of gasoline in a shed at his house.
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Eventually armed with new cell phone data, authorities re-approached Tellis after he had moved to Louisiana and married his girlfriend. Tellis hadnt told authorities all of the details of his contact with Chambers the day she was burned, Champion told the jury.
Tellis then copped a series of alibis and excuses which never panned out, Champion said. The three alibi witnesses Tellis provided all said they were not with him around the time Chambers was burned.
Champion said that around the time Chambers was set on fire, the defendants phone switched over to a different tower, and his car was seen leaving at a high rate of speed.
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Champion, the prosecutor, said he believes that after Chambers left the Tellis house, Tellis borrowed his sisters car, got his gas can, drove to the scene, poured gas in the Chambers car, lit it on fire, and then drove to Batesville, Mississippi to purchase the Green Dot cash card he was planning to send to his girlfriend in Louisiana.
Champion again repeated that Tilliss phone was off, but became active again around 7:42 p.m. when he called the victim. She had left his house at 7:26, but at 7:42, he texted her something along the lines of, hey honey I cant be with you tonight, my girls coming up. Then, Champion said, for the first time, Tellis called his girlfriend in Louisiana. His phone then went dead again. How in the world did he know his girl was coming up [from Louisiana] if he didnt talk to her before then? Champion asked rhetorically. The text to Chambers was an alibi text, Champion believes, and an attempt to throw the police off.
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She acknowledged that the crime, a burning death, was horrible, but that the evidence does not point to the defendant. At least eight first responders talked to Chambers at the scene of the burning. She was able to clearly identify herself, clearly indicated that someone set her on fire, and stated a name: Eric set me on fire. Palmer told the jury that Chambers didnt say another name. Eric did this to me, Palmer repeated. Chambers also said she didnt know her attackers last name. She did know Quintons last name was Tellis, but did not state it to first responders when she was still alive.
Palmer, the defense attorney, went on to say that cell phone records, which the state says tie the victim and the defendant together, cannot pinpoint a persons location.
Perhaps most crucially, the defense says that the Green Dot card purchased by the defendant was bought at 7:53 or 7:58 p.m., the very time prosecutors claim Tillis was setting Chambers on fire. (The car fire was reported just minutes later, at 8:04 or 8:06, according to prosecutors.)
Palmer concluded by saying that the case is full of reasonable doubt and that Chambers, the victim, did not name Quinton Tellis, the defendant, after she was burned.
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