Anyone watching? Looks to be a very interesting show.

Nope. Watchin' Alabama and Tennersee play softball.

Well so much for that. Tennersee just hit a two run homer to end it.

Got where I hardly watch any of those shows having to do with the bible or Jesus because they seem to always turn out to be an indoctrination as to why the Bible can't be believed and why Jesus really was merely a man and not the Son of God and the Son of Man.

There are some good ones but I bail at the first whiff of lies.

me too

Same here

Indoctrination like...Archeology?

I have the living truth (Bible) and thats all I need. I dont want to watch anything that Satan will use to add a shred of doubt in my mind.

I didnt but only because I had taken a Benadryl and knew I was about to pass out. The last one on the Face of Jesus and the Shroud of Turin was pretty interesting and seemed to even support that something strange happened that couldn't be explained thus supporting the resurection. I found it pretty interesting and done very well.

Yep.

And the funny thing is that most of the "experts" and commentators and teachers in those shows are Phds and Thds from various big time "divinity" schools at Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, Oxford etc. - and they all have something in common: none of them are ever true believers.

In my opinion, which isn't worth much...

If a History channel "documentary" or whatever can rattle your faith, you need to do some more studying and reading. Not picking on you, jmudler, as we've had plenty of messages back and forth about faith and such. However, I always hear people say things like "I don't want to listen to this or that because Satan will use it against me!!!"

Read, study, own your faith, have actual arguments against the "indoctrination". Sometimes a little bit of doubt can lead to awesome discoveries of truth. I think one of the biggest threats to the church, Christianity, evangelism, etc...are people that are Christians because they know that is the right thing to do, or they don't want to burn in hell, or their parents were, but don't actually know why. Plenty of resources out there to discover truths for yourself.

The show was actually hosted by a pastor. He was trying to find the direct descendants of Jesus today through DNA testing.

so in other words, a "pastor" who believes Christ fathered children with Mary Magdalene. And who doesn't have enough sense to know that we do not even have DNA or known direct descendants of Mary's and Joseph's other children. Brilliant.

I agree but I try not to have too many arguments or debates with my tv. I understand what you are saying. Everyone should know why they believe what they believe even if they can't answer every question. We should always be trying to understand more about what we believe and why so that we can fulfill 1 Pet 3:15. At the same time I struggle enough with my faith already and for me personally, I don't really need anything else, especially when the agenda is clear, trying to chip away at my faith. These shows, by and large, are not looking to discern the truth, they have an agenda which is precisely to destroy/prevent faith in Christ. Again, I do not think that all of these shows are this way but I would definitely say the vast majority do. Sometimes it's aggressive and sometimes it's subtle. I just don't care about watching them. My God does not need me to defend Him but that doesn't mean I have to listen to people lie about Him.

Hammer meet nail on this part of the post. There IS an agenda to shows like this, and it isn't to come to an honest answer to questions. Shows like these are often cloaked in ways that appear to be honest searching... but they're not.

Accurate observation. Most of them are aimed at an attempt to undermine Christianity, as they run counter to Biblical scripture. Oddly, they never run anything similar about Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism..

I fell asleep but recorded it. The scientist in the show got DNA from the shroud that Jesus was buried in and at the end of the show they were going to see if there was enough DNA to find decedents of Jesus, Mary and Joseph. But from what I could tell that any science evidence of the events then the pastor would and could rebuke with the actual events written in the old testament. But the pastor never indicated that he thought Jesus fathered any children. Never mentioned it nor did anyone else.

Before I fell asleep there was this one find a few years ago were an archaeologist claims he found some remains of John the Baptist. They were found on some island not to far from Russia and the pastor with the archaeologist and others went to the dig site. They said this island was some sort of strategic base during the cold war so that's why the remains were just found within the past ten years. The scientist said it was the bones of a right hand man but was unable to verify that because the DNA results were contaminated. The church that has those remains will not turn them loose for further testing.

The pastor hosting the show was very knowledgeable in Hebrew and especially the old testament.

I guess I should have clarified more. I don't think that these shows are a good way to find real truth, but a way to see how Christianity is challenged and where others might come from in debates and such.

There is a lot of Christ's life that is left out of the Bible we have today. It has been selected and edited at least since the days of Constantine and the Council of Nicea.

I personally don't give a rip if Jesus had children, or if he was married. That would NOT change my opinion of him and his plan of salvation for me.

Anytime a human lays his hands on something so perfect, you can bet he will change it NOT for the better.

Also, what were these folks doing omitting books from the Bible? Did they want to make THEIR way of worship seem more righteous, or were they trying to appease different factions? Were they trying to hide written truths to suit them so that they could be in authority over the masses?

The ONLY thing I'm sure of is that Jesus is the ONLY sacrifice that saves us, through God's grace.

The rest is just pomp and circumstance and the need of man to lord over us.

Hey Jono, I understand what you are saying. I also know my knowledge level isnt where it needs to be. I used to watch every one of the biblical shows on TV. Man I was on fire for the Lord. Could not get enough. Then I realised I was getting confused on certain things. I realized I was putting more emphasis on the TV/movies than scripture. I did not like that feeling of uncertainty. Today, I am very cautious to what I subject myself too.

As for the 2nd part. I know why I am a Christain. My testimony illustrates Christ's pursuit of me and my acceptance of him. My prayer life (relationship) galvanises my faith in my Father. Again I know what you are saying. I especially see in some of our youth. Just going through the motions.