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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: DryFire]
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03/16/17 04:59 AM
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Make it voluntary. Let insurance have an exclusion that they are not required to cover medical, if one was not wearing a seat belt.
I have the same issue with motorcycle helmets. If you don't want to wear one, fine with me. But don't expect insurance to cover your medical bills because you wanted to play stupid games. It's their insurance,they pay for it. You don't want another loophole for insurance companies. They might start as well start fining you for not eating healthy
Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: DryFire]
#2059959
03/16/17 05:04 AM
03/16/17 05:04 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,880 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Make it voluntary. Let insurance have an exclusion that they are not required to cover medical, if one was not wearing a seat belt.
The problem with this is, and it has been tossed around before, even without insurance the hospitals are duty bound to provide all the care they can and somebody is going to have to pay for it. With no insurance payment, we as taxpayers are going to be stuck with the tab because most of the population isn't going to be able to pay catastrophic hospital costs. After my wife's fall I'm finding out that even with good insurance, the costs are outrageous. The bill for the helicopter flight was $61,000. Blue Cross Peehip paid $11,000 of it. The Life flight company called and wanted to know if we were going to be paying the $50,000 with a check or credit card? Normally bills like that would bother me, but the thought of expecting people to write $50,000 checks is so outrageous it is just funny to me.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: DryFire]
#2060074
03/16/17 06:45 AM
03/16/17 06:45 AM
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Posts: 14,114 Chilton County
MarksOutdoors
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Make it voluntary. Let insurance have an exclusion that they are not required to cover medical, if one was not wearing a seat belt.
I have the same issue with motorcycle helmets. If you don't want to wear one, fine with me. But don't expect insurance to cover your medical bills because you wanted to play stupid games. Sounds good to me. The same for folks that want to smoke cigarettes but want me to subsidize their medical costs for lung cancer and emphysema. There are volumes of evidence to prove that you are better off wearing a seatbelt than not wearing one.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: jawbone]
#2060087
03/16/17 06:57 AM
03/16/17 06:57 AM
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 13,917 AL
hunterbuck
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They do and they always give the same lame excuses, don't want to burn up, don't want to drown and don't want to be caught in my car and not get out when under fire. The odds of dying in a wreck because they didn't wear their seat belt are much greater than any of those events occurring. They, like everyone else, are just looking for excuses to not do what they should do without being told.
If you're in bad enough shape to not be able to do something as simple as unclick a seatbelt, chances are you're not going to be in any shape to escape a burning or sinking car either.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: Deadwood]
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03/16/17 07:44 AM
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Posts: 12,026 34°25'49.80"N 86°55'46.99"...
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drive an old vw rabbit diesel 80mi round trip every day for several years and you'll look for that seat belt and anything else to help you feel better in that tiny thing. I started wearing it then (before the law was passed) and have just kept wearing it. Still believe it should be choice.
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: Deadwood]
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03/16/17 08:20 AM
03/16/17 08:20 AM
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Posts: 3,864 dothan
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I wear one on the interstate, the circle around Dothan and when my wife is in the car, hearing her constantly saying "buckle up " is more annoying than the warning that I had cut off.
Super Predator
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: jawbone]
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03/16/17 09:34 AM
03/16/17 09:34 AM
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Posts: 18,070 Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
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I've not seen one person, that is zero, that died from drowning because they drove in a pond or river and couldn't get their seat belt undone. I have. 17 year old girl ran off the road and ended up in a small, deep, hole in a creek...wouldn't even have known she was there if the accident hadn't been witnessed by another motorist. I was the recovery diver. Her seatbelt was fastened, and the webbing had come unraveled in her struggle to get out of it...never seen a web belt come apart like that. It took me over an hour to cut all the strands free and recover her, and it was terrible thinking about how long it had taken her to get herself that entangled...she didn't die well. That said, I realize that web belts don't normally come apart like that one did. I, my family, and anyone who rides with me, buckle up.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
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Re: Since We're On A Traffic And Speed Bent Lately...
[Re: Deadwood]
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03/16/17 10:08 AM
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Posts: 9,565 Cape San Blas, Florida
Deadwood
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For those that are concerned with being trapped underwater and not being able to lower the windows to escape, do as we do. Go buy SEVERAL spring loaded automatic center punches and make sure your family knows what they are and how to use them and where they stay in the vehicle. They will DEFINITELY break a window with ease just pressing on them until the spring trips. http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-Tools-Hardened-Steel-Center-Punch-89/202025674We also keep several Benchmade seatbelt cutters (they're cheap) stashed with the center punches as a bailout kit that stays in the same place always. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/i...r-new?a=2070511It might seem silly to some, but I always like a plan "B". After all that, I don't like being forced by law to make choices, either. As residents on the bay here, and with all our canals, we try to be prepared in this household.
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