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Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000522
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I don't think Trump or Obama are Christians.


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: 300gr] #2000533
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Originally Posted By: 300gr
It is my opinion by observation of Obama that he is not a Christian. A lot of his "fruits" are not consistent with a Christian


^^^^This. I do not not see any characteristics in the past eight years that verify his supposed Christian faith. Several times he publicly diminished Christianity while elevating Islam.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000585
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I sure am glad my salvation isn't determined by what others think. That sure would suck.

Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000603
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Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000605
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Well, when you say stuff like the evening call to prayer (Islam)
is the most beautiful sound you've ever heard, and write in his book that he would always side with Islam, it kind of kills the whole "I think he's a Christian thing". At least for me it does.

Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000678
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We still talk about Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and all those other worthless dictators, we need to remember them, and Barack Hussein O'Bama.

Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000726
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Is Obama's heart right with Christ?
Does Obama have a saving personal relationship with Christ?

Those are the two questions at the heart of the original post. And none of us can truly actually know because only God can know the heart of a person. So we are counseled by God's Word to leave that judgement to Him alone.

However, God knows that we live and interact in the world with a wide cross section of people. So he gave to believers a special gift in the Holy Spirit along with spiritual discernment to those willing to let God lead them. Additionally He gave us a great book in which to guide us and acquire knowledge.

God tells us to reserve judgement of the heart, but not actions, words, behavior, attitudes. For these things He helps us know where people stand through spiritual fruit. By looking at the fruit of a person, we will have information to aid us in knowing what kind of relationship to pursue with people in our lives-family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, acquaintances or random strangers.

By their fruit we will know them-the litmus test of discerning between believers right with Christ, believers struggling in their faithful walk, those lost but seeking, or those unbelievers in opposition to Christ (just to list a few).

So is Obama a Christian, not merely a CINO (Christian In Name Only)???

We will know by Obama's fruit, which reveals his heart. I'll leave that for all of you to pursue on your own. For me, I'm skeptical about his relationship with Christ and wouldn't seek out spiritual guidance from Obama nor trust his worldview based on what I've seen and heard him stand for and promote.


"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8

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Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000728
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Stray I agree with what you said however, I will believe Barry is a Christian when
I bump into him in Heaven.


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Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000729
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Obama might have been raised Muslim but he doesn't have the discipline to be a true believer. He's a narcissist. He got lucky by being at the right place at the right time. He's got he maturity of a sixteen year old, and he's had the right sycophants in the media to make him think he's really accomplished something. In reality, he's a child and he won the lottery.

Re: Is Obama a Christian ? [Re: perchjerker] #2000741
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Perch you have to correct your post and add EX to every word. Thank God and greyhound he's gone.

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