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Re: Is Obama a Christian ?
[Re: perchjerker]
#2000522
01/22/17 04:05 PM
01/22/17 04:05 PM
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AUstan23
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I don't think Trump or Obama are Christians.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Is Obama a Christian ?
[Re: 300gr]
#2000533
01/22/17 04:11 PM
01/22/17 04:11 PM
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MarksOutdoors
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Booner
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It is my opinion by observation of Obama that he is not a Christian. A lot of his "fruits" are not consistent with a Christian ^^^^This. I do not not see any characteristics in the past eight years that verify his supposed Christian faith. Several times he publicly diminished Christianity while elevating Islam.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Is Obama a Christian ?
[Re: perchjerker]
#2000726
01/22/17 07:26 PM
01/22/17 07:26 PM
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straycat
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Old Mossy Horns
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Is Obama's heart right with Christ? Does Obama have a saving personal relationship with Christ?
Those are the two questions at the heart of the original post. And none of us can truly actually know because only God can know the heart of a person. So we are counseled by God's Word to leave that judgement to Him alone.
However, God knows that we live and interact in the world with a wide cross section of people. So he gave to believers a special gift in the Holy Spirit along with spiritual discernment to those willing to let God lead them. Additionally He gave us a great book in which to guide us and acquire knowledge.
God tells us to reserve judgement of the heart, but not actions, words, behavior, attitudes. For these things He helps us know where people stand through spiritual fruit. By looking at the fruit of a person, we will have information to aid us in knowing what kind of relationship to pursue with people in our lives-family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, acquaintances or random strangers.
By their fruit we will know them-the litmus test of discerning between believers right with Christ, believers struggling in their faithful walk, those lost but seeking, or those unbelievers in opposition to Christ (just to list a few).
So is Obama a Christian, not merely a CINO (Christian In Name Only)???
We will know by Obama's fruit, which reveals his heart. I'll leave that for all of you to pursue on your own. For me, I'm skeptical about his relationship with Christ and wouldn't seek out spiritual guidance from Obama nor trust his worldview based on what I've seen and heard him stand for and promote.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Is Obama a Christian ?
[Re: perchjerker]
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01/22/17 07:33 PM
01/22/17 07:33 PM
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Posts: 12,250 Oxford, AL. USA
Big Game Hunter
Doesn’t Know His Code
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Doesn’t Know His Code
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Stray I agree with what you said however, I will believe Barry is a Christian when I bump into him in Heaven.
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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