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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: 257wbymag]
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01/13/17 04:46 AM
01/13/17 04:46 AM
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NWALJM
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Is there any reports on coy dogs , coy wolf's in ala. A study on coyotes is in progress. Been going a year or two. My study concludes all those bastards need to die. Study complete
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Steve Ditchkoff]
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01/13/17 06:36 AM
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coach41
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Thanks for sharing. Looks very interesting.
"Now boy, are you sure you can skin griz?"
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Steve Ditchkoff]
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01/13/17 09:49 AM
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Yelp softly
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Yelp softly]
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01/13/17 10:40 AM
01/13/17 10:40 AM
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centralala
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place. I got them running together in my mind. The illegal kills could been by other means. Didn't it say collars found by roads were considered illegal when it could have been a deer/auto collision?
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: centralala]
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01/13/17 11:40 AM
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Yelp softly
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place. I got them running together in my mind. The illegal kills could been by other means. Didn't it say collars found by roads were considered illegal when it could have been a deer/auto collision? From page 12 of Kevyn's paper. They called it hunting related causes, maybe I should go back and read some of the finer details more thoroughly but I wouldn't think an auto collision would be classified as hunting related or illegal. Thirty mortalities were documented throughout the study, 77% (23/30) of which were due to hunting-related causes. Among hunting-related mortalities, 17 (74%) were legal harvests, 5 (22%) were illegal harvests, and 1 (4%) was inconclusive as to the legality of the harvest.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Steve Ditchkoff]
#1990263
01/13/17 12:34 PM
01/13/17 12:34 PM
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RonBuck
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absolute fact , road hunters and night hunters are hurting the population worse than anything . I thought It was coyotes.
Last edited by RonBuck; 01/13/17 12:35 PM.
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Hogwild]
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01/13/17 12:48 PM
01/13/17 12:48 PM
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turkey247
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We need to focus more on enforcing the Laws and Regulations that already exist than trying to come up with new ones!
I've been on that soapbox for 10 years - but I'm tired of preaching it. I've been assured by many folks in many walks of the business that we can't control our good ole southern outlaws. I say we give it a try at least!! Here I am getting worked up thinking about it!
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Yelp softly]
#1990285
01/13/17 01:12 PM
01/13/17 01:12 PM
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centralala
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place. I got them running together in my mind. The illegal kills could been by other means. Didn't it say collars found by roads were considered illegal when it could have been a deer/auto collision? From page 12 of Kevyn's paper. They called it hunting related causes, maybe I should go back and read some of the finer details more thoroughly but I wouldn't think an auto collision would be classified as hunting related or illegal. Thirty mortalities were documented throughout the study, 77% (23/30) of which were due to hunting-related causes. Among hunting-related mortalities, 17 (74%) were legal harvests, 5 (22%) were illegal harvests, and 1 (4%) was inconclusive as to the legality of the harvest. Page 9 says cut collars found near roads where classified as illegal harvest. My first thought was auto collision. Thinking about it now could be shot from road. Just dont really know.
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: centralala]
#1990293
01/13/17 01:20 PM
01/13/17 01:20 PM
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RonBuck
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place. I got them running together in my mind. The illegal kills could been by other means. Didn't it say collars found by roads were considered illegal when it could have been a deer/auto collision? From page 12 of Kevyn's paper. They called it hunting related causes, maybe I should go back and read some of the finer details more thoroughly but I wouldn't think an auto collision would be classified as hunting related or illegal. Thirty mortalities were documented throughout the study, 77% (23/30) of which were due to hunting-related causes. Among hunting-related mortalities, 17 (74%) were legal harvests, 5 (22%) were illegal harvests, and 1 (4%) was inconclusive as to the legality of the harvest. Page 9 says cut collars found near roads where classified as illegal harvest. My first thought was auto collision. Thinking about it now could be shot from road. Just dont really know. I'm sure they were on the scene pretty fast, most likely if no deer was found it was a road hunter.
Last edited by RonBuck; 01/13/17 02:18 PM.
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: turkey247]
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01/13/17 03:37 PM
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We need to focus more on enforcing the Laws and Regulations that already exist than trying to come up with new ones!
I've been on that soapbox for 10 years - but I'm tired of preaching it. I've been assured by many folks in many walks of the business that we can't control our good ole southern outlaws. I say we give it a try at least!! Here I am getting worked up thinking about it! if you target em you can..
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: BhamFred]
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01/13/17 04:03 PM
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Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
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We need to focus more on enforcing the Laws and Regulations that already exist than trying to come up with new ones!
I've been on that soapbox for 10 years - but I'm tired of preaching it. I've been assured by many folks in many walks of the business that we can't control our good ole southern outlaws. I say we give it a try at least!! Here I am getting worked up thinking about it! if you target em you can.. Ain't no doubt about it!!! But, then again, there ain't many like you, Robert Hill, Clem Parnell, etc left. And, the ones with potential get Politically hampered for hurting the wrong folks feelings!
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Hogwild]
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01/13/17 11:40 PM
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I will say it again.......
We need to focus more on enforcing the Laws and Regulations that already exist than trying to come up with new ones! I do not want to give up one damn ounce of my own personal enjoyment to sacrifice to account for illegal activity!!!! No amount of new Regulatikns or Biologicla Studies will be feasible until we stop this. Here, here
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: garyo]
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01/14/17 04:46 AM
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Steve Ditchkoff
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Is there any reports on coy dogs , coy wolf's in ala. Nothing that I'm aware of.
*************** Steve Ditchkoff School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences Auburn University ***************
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: centralala]
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01/14/17 04:47 AM
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Steve Ditchkoff
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Well, its not written in dumbass redneck terms. My 2 takes: 1) They collared 82 deer. 3 died PDQ leaving 79. Of those 79, 30 where killed somehow. That means 49 survived for 3 years of the study. IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, that is an unbelievable survival rate! IF that is correct, it should give hunters who opt to pass deer up renewed hope in their choice. 2). IF IM READING IT CORRECT, most "excursions" began at sunrise. Once again, renewed hope for hunters for a buck during daylight hours. Survival rates were greater than I had expected. Excursions did begin at sunrise...which also surprised me and is great news for hunters.
*************** Steve Ditchkoff School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences Auburn University ***************
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Yelp softly]
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01/14/17 04:50 AM
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Steve Ditchkoff
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I want to read or hear more about the deer that were found to be harvested illegally in Kevyn's research. I read it this morning so I don't recall the exact numbers but something like 5 out of 35 deer that were taken were done so illegally. That seems like a pretty high percentage. Maybe I'm naive about the amount of poaching that takes place. I would love to provide more information on these deer, but unfortunately, there is no more information to share. I think that the data are a good indication that illegal harvest can be fairly prevalent in some areas.
*************** Steve Ditchkoff School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences Auburn University ***************
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: blade]
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01/14/17 04:51 AM
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Steve Ditchkoff
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These are all masters thesis? Yes (with the exception of one PhD dissertation and one BS Honors thesis). I probably should have shared this page a long time ago, but never really thought of it. If you dig through that website, you can also get to additional publications that have come out of our research program.
Last edited by Steve Ditchkoff; 01/14/17 04:56 AM.
*************** Steve Ditchkoff School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences Auburn University ***************
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Re: Data from AU-ADCNR Deer Research
[Re: Steve Ditchkoff]
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01/14/17 06:16 AM
01/14/17 06:16 AM
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blade
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These are all masters thesis? Yes (with the exception of one PhD dissertation and one BS Honors thesis). I probably should have shared this page a long time ago, but never really thought of it. If you dig through that website, you can also get to additional publications that have come out of our research program. Thanks, they appeared to be, not that it mattered.
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