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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839245
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If Brandon doesn’t want the info copy and pasted here, then I won’t step on his toes and do it. That’s his call on this one. If you guys need info for a certain county though, I’ll be glad to help get you in touch with a tracker.

trackncur……I could be wrong but I don’t recall anyone ever talking about “advertising” at any of the tracking events. I think it would make for a very good topic for someone to discuss at the upcoming event in the spring. Everyone approaches tracking as a hobby and that’s perfectly fine….no issue there….but the principles of getting your name out there for a beginner tracker is just the same as if you were running a business. It seems like most folks are just saying “Hey man I got a dog now.”…..and then expecting the calls to roll in….but that’s not going to happen. You have to put your name is 100 people’s hand to get 1 person to call. That may be a little exaggerated (probably not) but I’m just trying to make a point. I think anyone who has never run a small business would be served well to hear about “how to advertise”. Just a thought on a new topic for the spring event.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: turkey247] #1839285
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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Let's get back to the facebook thing. I (and a bunch of other good ole boys) will not be joining facebook for any reason. It's actually a pet peeve of mine when that place is seen as the end all, be all place to have public information.

Where can we see the information?



Ummm................ Facebook. Is this a trick question?


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839315
09/08/16 09:46 AM
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Face space is the devil!!! I'm just getting started with the whole tracking deal but I'm pumped about it this year. I have a lot of confidence in my dog and I'm chomping at the bit to get on a track. If anyone on here is in the Chelsea / harpersville area and needs a track pm me and I'll give you my phone number . I'll have a baby girl in November so I won't be traveling much.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839319
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For all of those not on facebook AON has a list of trackers as well.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839326
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H., the calls are gonna come from forums like this, word of mouth, flyers in places where hunters do business and business cards. I advertised in the local paper, hunting regulations book, Fla. Woods and Water and GON/AON apart from the dog list and hardly had a call from any of the paid advertisements. Being referred by others is great advertising.

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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: trackncur] #1839352
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Originally Posted By: trackncur
H., the calls are gonna come from forums like this, word of mouth, flyers in places where hunters do business and business cards. I advertised in the local paper, hunting regulations book, Fla. Woods and Water and GON/AON apart from the dog list and hardly had a call from any of the paid advertisements. Being referred by others is great advertising.


Once someone gets off the ground after maybe 3-4 years…..word of mouth advertising I would think should take over for most folks enough to keep them busy. It’s those first few years that will require someone to really do some leg work. I tried to cast a very broad net out in the beginning to get Otis as much experience as I could in his first couple years. My focus now though is on saturating the area immediately around me. Long term I would ideally like to stay within just a few county area here close by..... with a core area of 25-30 miles.

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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: !shiloh!] #1839483
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Originally Posted By: mandeerpig
Face space is the devil!!! I'm just getting started with the whole tracking deal but I'm pumped about it this year. I have a lot of confidence in my dog and I'm chomping at the bit to get on a track. If anyone on here is in the Chelsea / harpersville area and needs a track pm me and I'll give you my phone number . I'll have a baby girl in November so I won't be traveling much.


I've got a guy up your way that I tracked for twice last year that I'm going to pass off to you this year when he calls back. The dude is great guy, it's just too far for me to travel. He owns a big cattle farm in Fayettville and will be a great person for you to track for. If you are in the area, go in that Chevron and ask for the lady that owns it....that's his sister. I can't remember his name for chit right now.

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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839524
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So you went through all that trouble to round up the list of trackers and come on a hunting website to advertise it, but you have to join a Facebook group, when a lot of us don't and won't have a Facebook profile. Seems kinda dumb not to put the list on here.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: CNC] #1839546
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10 4 sounds good


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: !shiloh!] #1839560
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Originally Posted By: mandeerpig
10 4 sounds good


Are you on the Facebook list?.....If not, if you'll PM me your info then I’ll give it to him when he calls. I would about bet the farm that he’ll call again this year cause they have a bunch of young kids hunting. Both tracks for him last year was for a kids first deer and we were able to recover both of them.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839588
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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839617
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I think tips and gas.....is cause one thinks he is not gonna get calls and one worries about getting calls. Trackncur...you know over the years especially the last last five years I have a fee of $125.00 to show up within 50 miles. I have sent you on calls and told you what the fee would be and they paid if not more. I understand if one has a young dog (2 years old) not to charge. I have been tracking for a while, this season will be my eleventh year and I get more calls than I can do. I believe in networking and helping new trackers get on tracks....I don`t consider myself the best in the world, but I have good dogs. I`m always willing to help other trackers young and old...ask C N C.

Lets talk a little more bout the fee....last year I went on 140 calls. $125.00 within 50 miles to show up, its more if I have to drive father. I would say that 75% of the calls I went on the hunter gave me a lot more money than I charge. It cost a lot of money to maintain dogs year round, sure I love to watch my dogs work, but you have to take care of your dogs. I just dropped $2100.00 on redoing my dog pens by adding condo`s with air/heat. this is going to make it a lot easier to take care of my dogs.

If I can help any one in regards to tracking let me know I would be glad to help. I track in Georgia and Alabama, I live in Lee County Smiths Station Al. I have tracked all around but it is time to slow down and let some of the younger trackers pick up the load.

Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: goodman_hunter] #1839740
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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
So you went through all that trouble to round up the list of trackers and come on a hunting website to advertise it, but you have to join a Facebook group, when a lot of us don't and won't have a Facebook profile. Seems kinda dumb not to put the list on here.



Yea, I went through all the trouble... A good bit actually... And yes I did it to help hunters, like myself... BUT--- Since you think it's so DUMB, a bit of info for u and all the people afraid of Facebook for whatever reason.. (Kinda like a liberals point of view since you can have your own reasons for something but mine is "dumb")
Our list is made up of people who track a lot, and people who track a little. Most of them work full time jobs. All of them I have talked to, and they agreed to be put on the list. (THE FACEBOOK LIST) They didn't tell me to put their names and phone numbers in every group, on every page and in all the local bathroom stalls. I call or message every tracker, every season, except for those that are very active in the group. I ask them if they want to continue to be on the list. Most say yes. Some say no. A lot of them make changes to areas they track, etc.... On the hated Facebook, I delete and edit that info, and it's deleted and edited. Here is a scenario for you... If I put it everywhere, their names stay out there with their numbers and 2 years from now when somone needs a tracking dog, good ole Google, (thanks to their numbers being plastered everywhere they didn't consent to), gives the hunter their number and one night at 10pm, they get calls to track a deer for someone. Well guess what, their dog died 2 years ago and now he's still getting calls 2 years later. I fixed it on Facebook, but because you don't want to sign up for it, the list had to be posted up everywhere else just for u... So the big loser is the guy that can't get his number off the Internet to make the calls stop. And you moght say, well why advertise on here....? Because I want to help hunters. You might ask well what about all the stuff you just wrote..? I can control it on Facebook. They agreed to be there. They didn't agree to be everywhere else.... Sorry it's so DUMB. But now you know why it is. Not that I owe you an explanation or anything.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839824
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Brandon....I like the Facebook on Alabama tracking. I`m not a Facebook guru but I like to read about what goes on out there. It can be fun and informative to read about whats going on around in Alabama. I like to look at the pictures and how things went down in a track. As I said I don`t consider myself a pro at tracking but I have learned a few things over the years and I would be happy to share to all what I have experienced. I don`t blow a lot of a lot smoke to make myself look good hoping one would want my john henry. What works for me may work good for you but getting ideas form a lot of trackers will help others.

I started out with one dog (puppy) trainded her and it got so I realized I needed another dog. If you have one dog and it gets hurt you can`t help hunters find their deer. I did get another dog trained him..Jake a kimmer curr but will never have a another curr dog...he is a good dog but currs don`t make for a friendly dog around other dogs. After Jake got on his way I got another dog Caroline (female) trained her and she is good as Jake. And a couple of years ago I got two Plott puppies...wrong thing to do and I knew it, its hard to train two puppies at a time (I`m sharing this with you). If you have a dog that is doing pretty good and is 3 years old it would be a good time to get a another puppy...you can train a puppy a lot faster running it with another trained dog. My two plott puppies are doing well now but it was a job rotating them out on every track we went on. I don`t buy a two year old dog that is started, I feel if you get a puppy at 7/8 weeks and bond with it take really good care of it and work with it, show it a lot of love in return...my dogs will hunt their hearts out.

What I just shared is what others need to hear (the facts not BS) and the Facebook page would be a great place for us to learn from. Looking forward to reading your experiences. on Facebook.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839844
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It is very easy to create a fake facebook profile and put ZERO information on it or make everything up.
Then use it strictly for hunting related things.

Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839852
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It's even easier to not have anything to do with facebook.

But, when someone tells you there is some information and it's on facebook, don't start whining about where ELSE to find the info. It's on facebook - get your kid or grandkid to look it up for you.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839874
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In the end, it’s not on Brandon to post up the info here no more than its his place to put them in AON magazine or in the chitter at your local gas station. I liked that one, that was pretty good…grin

But seriously, if trackers that are on that list want their names put out there in other media outlets, then it’s really on them to promote their own service. Like I said though, I’ll still help any aldeer member find a tracker when they need one and I’m sure AJ, trackncur, or any of the other guys will too.

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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839893
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Something else to add to the discussion……There are a lot of new people who are getting into tracking now. Be mindful of this when you start cold calling someone who you don’t know. This is by no means meant to put down new guys…heck, I’m still new myself. What I’m saying to everyone is…..instead of waiting until you gut shoot one and then need a tracker….do your homework now and get to know the guy listed for your county or area. If it’s a guy training a puppy and he seems really eager to want to get into tracking, go ahead and start forming a relationship with him now. He may just live 5-10 miles down the road from your hunting land. Let him bring his puppy out to your land when you shoot an easy find and let him work his dog. When the time comes that you do mess up and need someone, then both parties will be in a much better situation for it.

Also, you local guys getting to know the guy in your area will also help vet the folks on the list. There’s only so much that Brandon can do when someone calls him up and wants to be added to the list of trackers. It’s inevitable that there will be guys who decide one day to let ol’rover try to find the deer they just shot and then put their name out there on the tracking lists. That’s not good for the tracking community or the hunters cause your gonna be pissed when you call someone up to find your buck and he shows up with his yard dog……then you’ll start bad mouthing your experience with getting a tracker off the list. Having all of you guys give feedback on people who are just bullchitting will keep the quality better for everyone.

I say that because the GA tracking community is already way ahead of ours in popularity and I see it playing out with those guys. I’ve heard some of the more experienced trackers over there complaining about it on several occasions. Once tracking became more popular, then every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a dog added their name to the list and went out trying to track with dogs they had never really trained. It’s a good thing and a bad thing but it can be managed through testimonials from the public if you guys speak up. If you call a guy and he stands you up and never shows up….let it be known…..If he does a great job, also let it be known. Call these guys and get to know your local tracker now instead of waiting.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839898
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Yea i wish skinny would come up with some way to edit posts on here, dont know why he didnt think of that. so your argument dont hold water, that along with your liberal comment further proves my point about you being a dumbasz. I was trying to help you cause i dont need a tracker myself.


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Re: Alabama Blood Trailing Network [Re: Brandon2013] #1839914
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Yea. There are "helpful" guys like you in every group. I've made it this far without you. I believe we can carry on the same way... But thx for all the wonderful "help".


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