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WTT Hunting for Dozer Work #1818867
08/18/16 05:15 PM
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I have 1k acres of land my grandma owns in Perry Co that I hunt and maintain myself. Trying to maintain that amount of land by myself is gigantic task. Most of my roads are washing out badly and need repaired and I'd also like to build a few more roads and greenfields. I know I can rent a dozer for a couple grand but money is tight and I've got greenfields to plant. If anyone here owns a dozer and is willing to trade out hunting for the use of their equipment give me a call 334-247-5984 thanks Zach

Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1819041
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I believe the amount of work you are asking for will exceed the payment offered? Your having to pay not only for the equipment rental, but the operator's time as well.


Difficult situation to be in. Managing land the proper way is expensive, and it doesn't keep itself up by itself.

Cover always grows into the road, or falls into the road.

Regardless, make sure if you do the road work or have someone else do it, the key thing for long time use is ditching the roads with good water turnouts. Flat blading roads while necessary in some situations, will wash the road at some point.

Once the roads are done, let the rain settle on them and stay off them when wet.

You may already know all of this.

Turn outs are what channels the water to run off the road, as seen to the left of the dozer blade.




Crown of road is what is seen here, the road built up in the middle, allowing water to go into the ditches and OFF the road surface. (The road runs to left down steep hill and turn out is seen to right).




Flat blading with slope to right is needed here, as there is NO place for the water to get off the road to the left, as the road is lower than the bank. So we have the water gradually move to the right to the turn outs.




As written, you may already know this, but if not, you need to know it. Continual grading of the roads and getting the road bed lower than the side of the banks is a No No, it only builds up a place for water to stand and form mud holes. Assuming you can't get your turn outs lower than the road beds.

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Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: BOFF] #1819151
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I appreciate the tips. I've been working with heavy equipment my entire life. My granddad had a land clearing and pond building business but has retired and sold all his equipment.

If someone were to lease the property at the price paper companies charge it would cost $10,000 a year. A land clearing business in town charges $75hr for a John deere 550. That's them paying for fuel and operating it. I can operate the equipment and would actually prefer it. Let's say I need 40 hours of dozer work, with me running the dozer and paying for fuel and you still charged $100 a hour that's only $4000, not even half of what it would cost to lease it between two people. In my book the equipment owner would be coming out way ahead.

Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1819170
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Why not lease a dozer and do it yourself , since you can operate one?



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Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: 2Dogs] #1819177
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Like I said in my original post, money is tight and can't afford it right now.

Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1819182
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Yep, that usually puts a stop to some of my plans too.



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Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1819184
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Have you called tri county in Selma and see how much it is to have em drop one off for a weekend? I've got to do some dozer work on a small piece of land in Marion junction sometime in the next few years. It needs to dry out a little first though. That prairie mud is tough.


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A good guide I like to do is have one berm/turnout per about 5' of drop in elevation if possible. I just take a clinometer and shoot it level.

Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: slippinlipjr] #1819331
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I've gotten prices from the new rental place on 5 in Woodstock but I haven't called tri county.

Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: timbercruiser] #1819432
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
A good guide I like to do is have one berm/turnout per about 5' of drop in elevation if possible. I just take a clinometer and shoot it level.


You're clearly in a flat area laugh

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Where are you in Perry Co?

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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
A good guide I like to do is have one berm/turnout per about 5' of drop in elevation if possible. I just take a clinometer and shoot it level.


You're clearly in a flat area laugh


Yep, if I put them on my big hill every 5' of drop you couldn't tell where one stopped and the next one started. It would be one solid water bar.



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Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1819761
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I figured with 1000 acres, you had more than 40 hours of work. Lol.

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Re: WTT Hunting for Dozer Work [Re: Softailrider00] #1820475
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Well I learned something just now. I've seen "turnouts" all over the place on the WMA, I just always thought they were a place for hunters to park their trucks so they didn't block the road!


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