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It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. #1799815
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http://townhall.com/columnists/waynegrud...choice-n2199564

Grudem is theologically respected by me, it would do some of us well to heed this article. Y'all know I'm not even close to being a Trump fan, but I cannot stomach the idea of the catastrophic results of another Democrat term. Besides, it's self-righteous.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799823
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That's kinda' where I am with things.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799825
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Good post! thumbup


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799830
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I didn't read or listen to the link but to say either is the way a "Christian" should vote is not a viable argument. Both of them have done things that are wrong and voting one over the other doesn't make it a "Christian" vote. I will vote Trump but it's because he's the lesser of 2 evils to me. I typically vote republican because of the abortion stand democrats typically take.
Though the politics are important, I think we've gotten our focus on the wrong issues. God made His promises and He will keep them. The person sworn into office won't change His promises made years ago. They will be fulfilled.
All the adults are doing now is scaring our kids to death with the fear we, as adults, are instilling in them by what they hear us saying, such as if he/she is elected it's all over.
It will be all over when Christ returns, not when a particular person is put into office. It may not be fun, but our faith should be in Christ, not politics.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: stkshtr] #1799857
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Originally Posted By: stkshtr
God made His promises and He will keep them. The person sworn into office won't change His promises made years ago. They will be fulfilled.

It will be all over when Christ returns, not when a particular person is put into office. It may not be fun, but our faith should be in Christ, not politics.


thumbup Excellent post!

Edit to add: I will be voting for Trump

Last edited by 3FFarms; 07/29/16 10:05 AM.

Originally Posted by CNC
Ya'll are just overthinking it now

Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: stkshtr] #1799860
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Originally Posted By: stkshtr
I didn't read or listen to the link but to say either is the way a "Christian" should vote is not a viable argument. Both of them have done things that are wrong and voting one over the other doesn't make it a "Christian" vote. I will vote Trump but it's because he's the lesser of 2 evils to me. I typically vote republican because of the abortion stand democrats typically take.
Though the politics are important, I think we've gotten our focus on the wrong issues. God made His promises and He will keep them. The person sworn into office won't change His promises made years ago. They will be fulfilled.
All the adults are doing now is scaring our kids to death with the fear we, as adults, are instilling in them by what they hear us saying, such as if he/she is elected it's all over.
It will be all over when Christ returns, not when a particular person is put into office. It may not be fun, but our faith should be in Christ, not politics.


Excellent post. I am trying to teach my daughter that we should be more vocal about the Gospel than we are politicians. Sadly, I've been guilty in the past of focusing more on who leads the country than I have on who should lead my life.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: 3FFarms] #1799870
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Originally Posted By: 3FFarms
Originally Posted By: stkshtr
God made His promises and He will keep them. The person sworn into office won't change His promises made years ago. They will be fulfilled.

It will be all over when Christ returns, not when a particular person is put into office. It may not be fun, but our faith should be in Christ, not politics.

Well Said!!
thumbup Excellent post!

Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: bill] #1799871
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Some of these people may disagree with your decision to think it doesn't matter who is in charge of your country. They were a rather religious lot.


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How about these guys?



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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799875
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Good post


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There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: Beer Belly] #1799877
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kids are never hurt as a result of an election



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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: Beer Belly] #1799902
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly
Some of these people may disagree with your decision to think it doesn't matter who is in charge of your country. They were a rather religious lot.



Excellent post... thumbup


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799903
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It comes down to flawed versus evil for me. I will vote flawed. I've seen enough evil the last 8 years, and pantsuit and company are beyond dishonest and self serving as they lead their sheep to the polls...


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To answer the question. Hell yes.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1799926
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Anybody that reads that article and still considers voting for anybody other than Trump needs to do a lot of thinking.

Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1800062
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Great post


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1800572
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
http://townhall.com/columnists/waynegrud...choice-n2199564

Grudem is theologically respected by me, it would do some of us well to heed this article. Y'all know I'm not even close to being a Trump fan, but I cannot stomach the idea of the catastrophic results of another Democrat term. Besides, it's self-righteous.


Excellent analysis in the article. I disagree with some of his assumptions, but overall it is good.

As a current "never Trump" guy the only argument that gets my attention is the appointment of justices and judges. Makes me study the situation deeply.

I 100% disagree with you on being self-righteous. Has everything to do with Liberty and conscience.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: timbercruiser] #1800597
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Anybody that reads that article and still considers voting for anybody other than Trump needs to do a lot of thinking.


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Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: ikillbux] #1801124
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I thought the best part of the article was, If you vote 3rd party it's 1 less vote she needs to win

Re: It's the morally right thing to vote for Trump. [Re: capehorn24] #1801147
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Originally Posted By: capehorn24
I thought the best part of the article was, If you vote 3rd party it's 1 less vote she needs to win


1 less vote Trump needs as well, 3rd party vote can't harm either candidate nor can it help as it is not a vote for either R or D

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