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No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. #1634620
01/31/16 04:53 PM
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If you have a pocket pistol and forget it's there like I do, you will have to walk all the way back to your car and all the way back to the building so that you can pass through the metal detector at the ER. Dont ask how I know this. slap

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: BrotherTurtle] #1634625
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Is that hospital state funded? If so, I doubt they meet the requirements to legally disallow CC.

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: BrotherTurtle] #1634634
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Most hospital ERs are that way now. I was at St. Vincents not long ago and it was the same way.

But, I walked around to the other entrance and came in through the hospital where there was no medal detector or guard.

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: doekiller] #1634664
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I'm not sure. In Gadsden, they have a sign, but no detector, so I figure no one will know, so I carry. But here, they have a detector and a guard. What requirements do they have to meet to disallow cc?

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: BrotherTurtle] #1634668
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Huntsville hospital ER has had a guard and metal detector for at least 5 years. They busted me with a pocket knife in 2011.



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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: BrotherTurtle] #1634689
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Originally Posted By: BrotherTurtle
I'm not sure. In Gadsden, they have a sign, but no detector, so I figure no one will know, so I carry. But here, they have a detector and a guard. What requirements do they have to meet to disallow cc?


If they have in-house mental care for patients, it's prohibited to carry there.

If it's private property they don't have to meet any requirements, but if it's state funded they have to have an armed guard posted at the entrance, entrance has to be limited to select personnel during operating hours through use of a turn-style/keypad/etc, signs must be posted.

Here is the AL code:

(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a), a person, including a person with a permit issued under Section 13A-11-75(a)(1) or recognized under Section 13A-11-85, may not, without the express permission of a person or entity with authority over the premises, knowingly possess or carry a firearm inside any building or facility to which access of unauthorized persons and prohibited articles is limited during normal hours of operation by the continuous posting of guards and the use of other security features, including, but not limited to, magnetometers, key cards, biometric screening devices, or turnstiles or other physical barriers.

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: 2Dogs] #1634709
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Same thing at Babtist East in Montgomery. In 2014 when my son was born I went to our car after hours to get my wife's bag and I had to enter through the ER and I had a gun and Knife. They would not let me in even after I put them in the car. I was flipping out because I couldn't get back inside to my wife. I finally had to call her room and get the nurse to get me back in the building to be with my wife. I walked through the front door 4 times with no problems but the ER was a different story. I hate ERS.


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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: hayman] #1634716
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Originally Posted By: hayman
Same thing at Babtist East in Montgomery. In 2014 when my son was born I went to our car after hours to get my wife's bag and I had to enter through the ER and I had a gun and Knife. They would not let me in even after I put them in the car. I was flipping out because I couldn't get back inside to my wife. I finally had to call her room and get the nurse to get me back in the building to be with my wife. I walked through the front door 4 times with no problems but the ER was a different story. I hate ERS.


What was their reason for not letting you in AFTER you took your evil weapons to the car?



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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: 2Dogs] #1634717
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Huntsville hospital ER has had a guard and metal detector for at least 5 years. They busted me with a pocket knife in 2011.


Got me the same way back about 2013. I signed the knife over into an envelope and got it when I left


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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: BrotherTurtle] #1634719
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Haha! I was having surgery at Brookwood in B'ham about 10 years ago. I was lying on my back getting ready to go back into the O.R. and forgot I had my pistol in my pocket. They called security and they escorted my wife outside with it so she could put it in the car. They acted like they had never seen anyone carry before.

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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1634733
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Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
Haha! I was having surgery at Brookwood in B'ham about 10 years ago. I was lying on my back getting ready to go back into the O.R. and forgot I had my pistol in my pocket. They called security and they escorted my wife outside with it so she could put it in the car. They acted like they had never seen anyone carry before.


Now that's funny.

Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: 2Dogs] #1634739
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: hayman
Same thing at Babtist East in Montgomery. In 2014 when my son was born I went to our car after hours to get my wife's bag and I had to enter through the ER and I had a gun and Knife. They would not let me in even after I put them in the car. I was flipping out because I couldn't get back inside to my wife. I finally had to call her room and get the nurse to get me back in the building to be with my wife. I walked through the front door 4 times with no problems but the ER was a different story. I hate ERS.


What was their reason for not letting you in AFTER you took your evil weapons to the car?


Probably because they wanted to build a pool of people to enter the hospital and that didn't fit my time schedule. thumbup the guard wasn't happy when the nurse came and escorted me inside. Picture your wife in labor and you can't get to her. Nuff said!


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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: hayman] #1634788
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Originally Posted By: hayman
Same thing at Babtist East in Montgomery. In 2014 when my son was born I went to our car after hours to get my wife's bag and I had to enter through the ER and I had a gun and Knife. They would not let me in even after I put them in the car. I was flipping out because I couldn't get back inside to my wife. I finally had to call her room and get the nurse to get me back in the building to be with my wife. I walked through the front door 4 times with no problems but the ER was a different story. I hate ERS.


When I first retired I worked Baptist East Security for a year. After hours you have to go through the ER and that includes the metal detector. If it had been just a knife they would have logged it and given you a receipt and kept it for you. They will not keep a gun however. Normally, once you put the items in your car, they let you in. Maybe your "flipping out" had something to do with it. If the nurse let you in the front door without authorization from security she was jeopardizing her job. If she persuaded security to let you in, you were lucky. They have absolutely no control over security and they did you a favor. No one there wanted to keep a man from the birth of his child, but they have very strict guidelines they have to follow and medical personnel tend to be freaked out over guns anyways. You would understand if you saw the level of emotions in an ER. It wouldn't take much for someone to snap.


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I tore my knee up a few years ago and they pushed me in the er with a wheel chair and I had my little 9mm in my pocket forgot all about it. When they made me take my pants off I just left it in my pocket and never said anything about it


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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: jawbone] #1634818
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: hayman
Same thing at Babtist East in Montgomery. In 2014 when my son was born I went to our car after hours to get my wife's bag and I had to enter through the ER and I had a gun and Knife. They would not let me in even after I put them in the car. I was flipping out because I couldn't get back inside to my wife. I finally had to call her room and get the nurse to get me back in the building to be with my wife. I walked through the front door 4 times with no problems but the ER was a different story. I hate ERS.


When I first retired I worked Baptist East Security for a year. After hours you have to go through the ER and that includes the metal detector. If it had been just a knife they would have logged it and given you a receipt and kept it for you. They will not keep a gun however. Normally, once you put the items in your car, they let you in. Maybe your "flipping out" had something to do with it. If the nurse let you in the front door without authorization from security she was jeopardizing her job. If she persuaded security to let you in, you were lucky. They have absolutely no control over security and they did you a favor. No one there wanted to keep a man from the birth of his child, but they have very strict guidelines they have to follow and medical personnel tend to be freaked out over guns anyways. You would understand if you saw the level of emotions in an ER. It wouldn't take much for someone to snap.


No the nurse came to the ER where I was and talked to the security officer and told him I was ok. Mind you this was 10:00 at night and I was scared to death about my first born and some dude wouldn't let me back inside where I had carried all day long with no questions. From what was coming in the ER at that time I understand why he wouldn't let me in but I was probably paying for most of the other patient's in he ER also.

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That is what I was saying, the nurse asked on your behalf to let you in. Like I said, Baptist East tries very hard to be accommodating to parents of newborns since that is the emphasis of the hospital. They want only pleased new parents. We had one idiot who the nurse got an extra food tray for throw it at her because it didn't have enough bacon on it. We went up there and explained to him that in the future he could get all the bacon he wanted when he paid for it. The nurse still asked us to let him stay.


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I stayed a children's hospital with my wife and 2 year old daughter for about two weeks , my daughter almost died numerous times and I was stressed beyond belief . Well I couldn't have my pistol( thank god now ) and one morning while walking to McDonald's I had a black guy on a pink bicycle try to rob me , I swear if you never seen a man whoop another man with a bicycle you don't know what your missing . My daughter is 10 now and doing fine . This post reminded me of this , I guess you suppress certain things .

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Re: No Wepons at Childrens Hospital Bham. [Re: Steffan] #1634890
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Originally Posted By: Steffan
I stayed a children's hospital with my wife and 2 year old daughter for about two weeks , my daughter almost died numerous times and I was stressed beyond belief . Well I couldn't have my pistol( thank god now ) and one morning while walking to McDonald's I had a black guy on a pink bicycle try to rob me , I swear if you never seen a man whoop another man with a bicycle you don't know what your missing . My daughter is 10 now and doing fine . This post reminded me of this , I guess you suppress certain things .


Pics or it didn't happen. LOL. I would like to have seen that. I wonder if he ever started to rob someone again and thought to himself "you know, this didn't end well last time. "

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Originally Posted By: SouthBamaSlayer

Originally Posted By: BrotherTurtle
I'm not sure. In Gadsden, they have a sign, but no detector, so I figure no one will know, so I carry. But here, they have a detector and a guard. What requirements do they have to meet to disallow cc?


If they have in-house mental care for patients, it's prohibited to carry there.

If it's private property they don't have to meet any requirements, but if it's state funded they have to have an armed guard posted at the entrance, entrance has to be limited to select personnel during operating hours through use of a turn-style/keypad/etc, signs must be posted.

Here is the AL code:

(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a), a person, including a person with a permit issued under Section 13A-11-75(a)(1) or recognized under Section 13A-11-85, may not, without the express permission of a person or entity with authority over the premises, knowingly possess or carry a firearm inside any building or facility to which access of unauthorized persons and prohibited articles is limited during normal hours of operation by the continuous posting of guards and the use of other security features, including, but not limited to, magnetometers, key cards, biometric screening devices, or turnstiles or other physical barriers.


The code you posted doesn't say anything about the guard having to be armed. We can't carry in my office, we have an unarmed guard at all entrances, turnstiles and badge in...

So in other words, if a bunch of ISIS guys want to blow through the front entrance with AK-47's and kill every last one of us, they're pretty much good to go. slap


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