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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1629608
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Them big "coyotes" are probably mixed with someone's dog that got dumped out


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I've had more than a few old timers tell me stories about seeing red wolves here.

Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: Honolua] #1629610
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Originally Posted By: Honolua
last thing you wanna see on your cam is a wolf pack

That's why they were pretty much wiped out in this state a 100 yrs ago. Friend of mine used to work a catfish farm between Greensboro and gallion, he swears they are down there in that area.


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1629657
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We got a pic of one on our trail cams (I don't have it but guy I go with does..) he sent it to a biologist who sent it many others and they all concluded it was a pure bred red wolf...guy I go with then saw it while turkey hunting that spring as it trotted by on the far end of the field...peppered it's tail a lil at 100 yards just to scare it away...up on lookout mountain in dekalb county


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: Gobble4me757] #1629677
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Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
We got a pic of one on our trail cams (I don't have it but guy I go with does..) he sent it to a biologist who sent it many others and they all concluded it was a pure bred red wolf...guy I go with then saw it while turkey hunting that spring as it trotted by on the far end of the field...peppered it's tail a lil at 100 yards just to scare it away...up on lookout mountain in dekalb county



I have so much to say about this...but I won't.


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: trlrdrdave] #1629680
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Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave
Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
We got a pic of one on our trail cams (I don't have it but guy I go with does..) he sent it to a biologist who sent it many others and they all concluded it was a pure bred red wolf...guy I go with then saw it while turkey hunting that spring as it trotted by on the far end of the field...peppered it's tail a lil at 100 yards just to scare it away...up on lookout mountain in dekalb county



I have so much to say about this...but I won't.


I'm being completely serious...ill try and get it from him in the am and get it posted (could I email someone to help me post by chance?)


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1629752
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some of you should read a little before you comment. Several of your opinions on this are completely wrong and discreadeted by science. Their is quite a bit of info out there right now on new coyote research that backs that the coyotes we have in many areas of the US carry wolf DNA. They have proven that the small scroungy coyote that is seen out west is not the same canine we have here. The Info is out there for the naysayers
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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1629791
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I wasn't talking about the picture.


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1629828
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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: sdw] #1629833
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Originally Posted By: sdw
There are red wolves in Alabama. I've seen one. But I don't have a picture so it might as well have been a black panther.


Had an old man who worked for the lady (they are both deceased now) who had cows next to our lease. He would keep an eye on our place and let me know if anything was going on. One day he says "we've got a red wolf around here. I've have seen him several times in the back of the pasture that joins your place. Nobody will believe it though."

My response, "I believe you Ed. I saw it two weeks ago while bow hunting at about 50 yards." We did not have hardly any coyotes on our place at that time. I no longer see the BIG DOG tracks, and the coyotes have taken over.

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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: trlrdrdave] #1629873
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Originally Posted By: trlrdrdave
Originally Posted By: Gobble4me757
We got a pic of one on our trail cams (I don't have it but guy I go with does..) he sent it to a biologist who sent it many others and they all concluded it was a pure bred red wolf...guy I go with then saw it while turkey hunting that spring as it trotted by on the far end of the field...peppered it's tail a lil at 100 yards just to scare it away...up on lookout mountain in dekalb county



I have so much to say about this...but I won't.

rofl

Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: Bigbamaboy] #1629889
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Originally Posted By: Bigbamaboy
I'm not saying this is a red wolf, or even a mix, but it is strikingly similar in appearance. I killed it 3 or 4 years ago.


No idea about the genetics, but that is a pretty coyote.

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I heard a "black panther" story last night... Sighted in LA by multiple people...


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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: trlrdrdave] #1630155
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They were released in more places than just Carolina

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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1630247
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Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1630676
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Actually, if memory serves, all red-wolf restocking and funding was stopped during the Carolina debacle, when the red wolf dna was found to be nothing more than coyote-grey wolf mix, and there was no 'red wolf' species itself. Somebody can google those particulars, I'm sure. Point is: no such thing as a red wolf.....it's like protecting mules....can cross breed for that thing anytime you like.

Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: Beadlescomb] #1632851
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
Them big "coyotes" are probably mixed with someone's dog that got dumped out


Possible, but not probable for several reasons:
1. Difference in breeding patterns. Coyotes breed seasonally, dogs do not.

2. Coyotes are almost always antagonistic towards dogs.

3. Coyotes will only exhibit nonspecific breeding when suitable members of its own species are not available. Name a place in Alabama that doesn't have a thriving coyote population. If there's one, there's a thousand it seems like.

4. Litter survivability is very low, even in a captive setting.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying chances are pretty slim.

Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1637255
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I lease a farm in ky.
Back in November I was hunting the CRP field and and thought I heard deer coming off the power line.
As I turned around I saw what I thought was a red fox, but turned out it was a red coyote.
It had two more with it but they were gray.
I should have shot it, but it was only an hour or so after daylight and the rut was kicking pretty good and I didn't want to mess up any potential shooter bucks that might be cruising.
I have a pic but don't know how to post.

Re: Red wolf in Alabama? [Re: Honolua] #1637307
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Originally Posted By: Honolua
last thing you wanna see on your cam is a wolf pack



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