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Ministry spinoff
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01/27/16 06:28 AM
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hollywud20
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Do yall believe a woman can preach. Not like Sunday school. I mean hold a full time ministers position. Or does woman shall keep quit in church and not hold any authority over man mean just that?
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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01/27/16 06:58 AM
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I believe men are more capable than women in leadership positions (Presidents as well). Look at what removing men from the homes has done to our culture. Absent of a Father, a young teenage boy will find it harder to learn to yield to authority. But there were times when bold, Godly men were hard to find in the Bible and God used women (Deborah). I think women can preach, but I believe that just as Paul recommended in Timothy that deacons and overseers are men, Pastors should be men.
Last edited by MarksOutdoors; 01/27/16 07:00 AM.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Ministry spinoff
[Re: hollywud20]
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The popular reason is why I asked. I know the answer according to what the bible says. But just wondered how many have turned to popularity and politically correct?
Last edited by hollywud20; 01/27/16 07:31 AM.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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01/27/16 07:56 AM
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I believe the bible. It hits me pretty hard sometimes too. Nevertheless it is the word of God. Then why aren't you slaughtering lambs? The reason you aren't,even though God ordered it,is because it only applied to that group of people for that specific time. If you take time to find out why Paul said what he did about women keeping silent,you will find that is is the same kind of situation.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
[Re: hollywud20]
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01/27/16 08:39 AM
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I've never studied this in depth.
RHC...can you elaborate or give an overview of your findings about what Paul said and why?
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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01/27/16 12:21 PM
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Women can preach in the church. Some of yall need to do some basic study on the background and context of the scriptures yall just throw around. The passage in 1 Cor 14 refers to a problem they were having in the church at Corinth at the time it was written.At that time the women and men were seated seperatly in the sanctuary and the women were yelling out during the reading of the scripture asking their husbands for explanation therefore creating confusion and disorder. Paul was addressing that specific situation and that situation only. That scripture has been used to hold women out of ministry for a long time. Now I do believe that scripture shows that God created a DIVINE order in the family. Husband, wife and then children. The husband is the HEAD of the family. That doesnt mean he dominates His wife and kids, It means like Jesus he pours out His life and sacrifices for them and is RESPONSIBLE for them and all that goes on in his household. ( Ephesians 5:25-31
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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How many women did Jesus call to be one of the 12 Disciples? This is just to add to the discussion!
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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How many women did Jesus call to be one of the 12 Disciples? This is just to add to the discussion! The answer to that would be none as we all know. What does that have to do with women ministers?
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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01/27/16 12:50 PM
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Our pastor down at the FBC says that not only are women expressly forbidden from preaching/pastoring, but only MARRIED men can be deacons -- not even men who are single lifelong bachelors!! He says that Paul purposefully wrote that deacons were to be husbands of one wife and thus must be married.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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Galatians 3:28 says there is neither male nor female in Christ. God spoke through a donkey in Numbers 22:21-39. If God used a donkey as his mouthpiece, I'd assume he'd use a woman if he wanted to. Who knows? It may have been a male donkey. Ha!
To be honest, it matters not to me. I'll be the first to say that the more I learn about God, the more I realize just how little I do know.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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I knew the answer to the question about the Disciples. I just used it to make a point. In all of the times in Scripture that Jesus calls people to leadership positions, he calls men.
In the book "Why Men Hate Going to Church," The author's point is that men hate going because it's this overly feminine place. Think of the Decorations, Praise Teams, etc... Men follow men, women follow men. It's really not the other way around. I get it. I've read just about every book on mens ministry out there. I understand God made men to lead, I agree that the church is overly feminized. The reason for that in my OPINION is because men have left their true calling of God to lead their families and churches and the women have stepped in to fill that role. I still see no biblical New Testament example where God expressively states without exception where a woman is disqualified from serving as a minister.
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Re: Ministry spinoff
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Our pastor down at the FBC says that not only are women expressly forbidden from preaching/pastoring, but only MARRIED men can be deacons -- not even men who are single lifelong bachelors!! He says that Paul purposefully wrote that deacons were to be husbands of one wife and thus must be married. I guess Jesus could not be a deacon. The "husband of one wife" could be a spinoff thread too.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Ministry spinoff
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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Our pastor down at the FBC says that not only are women expressly forbidden from preaching/pastoring, but only MARRIED men can be deacons -- not even men who are single lifelong bachelors!! He says that Paul purposefully wrote that deacons were to be husbands of one wife and thus must be married. I guess Jesus could not be a deacon. The "husband of one wife" could be a spinoff thread too. To top it off, Paul wasn't married either. Read I Corinthians 7:1-9. Lol! I think he was referring to being married, divorced, and remarried.
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