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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1623919
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I'm gonna use the same argument that the deer hunters use/used with buck limits. Limiting some from killing five will help others succeed in killing one. You can't say buck limits make sense but turkey limits don't!
Very strange, there was a thread last year or year before wanting a fall season AND and either sex turkey season (which I thought was insane), now this. Polar opposite opinions. I have to scrap and scrape to get my boys one turkey a piece.
Like the deer hunters say, I'm scared they'll lose interest with no turkeys.


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1623938
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Deer and turkeys are totally different

Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1623980
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Just another State that should look to Alabama as the model. Maine should be calling our DCNR for advise on season limits and regs:

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“Farmers receive no economic benefit from turkey hunting. It’s a cost to them.”


http://modernfarmer.com/2013/06/turkey-wars/


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1623987
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Wow. Id gladly take crop damage from turkeys up here!


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1624022
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Biologically speaking a fall season either sex wouldn't impact the population. I wouldn't be for killing a hens under any circumstance but if we are going just by the #'s it wouldn't matter. Just like Jake harvest, etc

Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: BrentM] #1624110
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Originally Posted By: BrentM

It's kind of a shame that the best thing the state can some up with is putting more regulations on other parts of the state that don't have the problems to begin with.


This right here ^^^^^. The buffoons sure did it to doe season.



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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: gobbler] #1624113
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Originally Posted By: gobbler
Just another State that should look to Alabama as the model. Maine should be calling our DCNR for advise on season limits and regs:

Quote:
“Farmers receive no economic benefit from turkey hunting. It’s a cost to them.”


http://modernfarmer.com/2013/06/turkey-wars/


LOL at this one, gobbler. They sure oughta call you to come be a consultant and teach those farmers that turkeys can be a great cash crop. I looked at their regs after reading the article and found that they are full of nonsense like this:

>>>*Beginning in 2015, turkey hunters in WMDs 1-6 are assigned to either Season A or Season B based on their year of birth. During “odd” numbered calendar years such as 2015, hunters with “odd” birth years will be authorized to hunt during Season A (May 4-9, 2015 and May 18-23, 2015 this year); hunters with “even” birth years will be authorized to hunt during Season B (May 11-16, 2015 and May 25-30, 2015). All turkey hunters can hunt the last week (June 1-6, 2015).

During “even” numbered calendar years (2016, 2018, etc.), hunters with “even” birth years will be authorized to hunt during Season A; hunters with “odd” birth years will be authorized to hunt during Season B<<<<

This is the kinda system some people wanta bring to AL. I'd rather not. smile

And the thing is, Maine allows a hunter to kill 2 of either sex in the fall and 2 gobblers in the spring. I'm not looking up their harvest numbers, but if they are killing a good many hens in the fall then hunting might be having more effect on the population there than it does in AL.

For those doubting the existence of a turkey hunting culture in AL, Maine is a great example of a place that doesn't have one. And the reason it doesn't is that the state has made it pretty much impossible for one to develop. And all their rules contribute to the farmers being unable to monetize their turkeys. Post up an add for a turkey lease on aldeer and you get 100 replies the first day. I doubt such a thing even exists in Maine.

And that culture in AL is certainly not just for the few that kill a limit in a given year. It has been created over the decades because we have that long spring season and generous limit. I grew up when that culture was just beginning to develop. In the early 60s, nobody in our area knew how to turkey hunt when we first got a season. It took some time for those guys to learn, and they did a lot of trial and error. There was a group of 4 or 5 men that met at our house every morning to plan their different hunts. Most people in the community thought they were all crazy at the time, but the number of crazy people started to grow. Now we are everywhere. smile

I started hunting turkeys in 1965 at age 10, and I went before school every morning my dad would let me go. I continued to go before school or work as I got older. From 1965-1999, I killed a grand total of 3 limits. I had to be at work by 7, so the turkey had to almost fly down in range for me to have time to kill him, but I went anyway. Most seasons I killed 2 or 3, but I did put up some zeroes. After I retired from my first career, I had time to stay with the turkeys in the morning and started killing limits pretty consistently. Now I'm getting to the point of being too old and may never kill another limit. In fact, I'd better start my anti-jinx postings - I'll probably never kill another turkey period, much less a limit. smile

For most of us in AL, how many turkeys you kill is all about the season of life you are in and the opportunities you have to hunt. Those circumstances change, but the culture of turkey hunting that we are blessed with here remains the same. Maine doesn't have it, and probably never will. I don't wanta see AL lose it, even if my hunting days are almost over. I might need to lease out the turkey rights on my place to upgrade to a better nursing home someday. smile


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1624136
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Mr. Steve I'm calling dibs on leasing them there turkey rights if you ever decide to list them to the public grin


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #1624164
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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2759983
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Bump for good reading material



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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: Southwood7] #2760021
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Originally Posted by Southwood7


Bump for good reading material



Quit bringing this up before squeaky throws all his money at pcp and I lose my spot lol


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: Surefire1911] #2760239
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Bump for good reading material



Quit bringing this up before squeaky throws all his money at pcp and I lose my spot lol


LOL....You don’t have anything to worry about. I’m throwing my money at other folks currently grin The direction Bama is headed with reduction of hunting days and bag limit want be much need to pay anyone for additional turkey rights. I’ll have the privilege to hunt one the best turkey populations I’ve ever seen on a place in Alabama very soon. It will be all I need in the future if things change. I’ll just spend that money elsewhere in a state that has turkey and opportunity.


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Re: Somebody make a biological case for a later season or lower limit? [Re: Squeaky] #2760255
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Originally Posted by Squeaky
I’ll just spend that money elsewhere in a state that has turkey and opportunity.


I'm afraid a lot of money and land improvement incentive will be lost for the state as Chuckie and his cohorts further restrict hunter rights. Once again, it's a perfect example of an inept government overreaching to make decisions on behalf of the private citizens. Chuck's dictatorship and unilateral decision making authority is a terrible thing for hunters and land owners our state.

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