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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: JSanford1974]
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01/01/16 07:02 PM
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3x9x40 Some will say get a 50 mm but IMO a 50 sits way too high for a kid. Causes them to pick their head up off the stock.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: JSanford1974]
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01/01/16 07:03 PM
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Depending on the distance you plan to shoot, I'd go with a 3-9x40 or a 2.5-10x44. Size however has less to do with being able to see than does the quality of the glass and coatings. Eurooptics has a 3-9x40 Conquest for $299.00. I just bought a Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10x44 and paid $369.00 from CameralandNY.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: JSanford1974]
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01/01/16 07:03 PM
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3-9x40. Leupold, Vortex seem to be getting a lot of talk on here. Bushnell is good. Some good looking Burris 2-7x35 on eBay for under $150. Make sure your scope is mounted correctly first. They can be hard to see through if the scope is not positioned properly on the gun.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: FurFlyin]
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3x9x40 Some will say get a 50 mm but IMO a 50 sits way too high for a kid. Causes them to pick their head up off the stock. This ^^^ I am so over thinking I need a mini hubble on my rifle to see well
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: gundoc]
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01/02/16 03:55 AM
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Depending on the distance you plan to shoot, I'd go with a 3-9x40 or a 2.5-10x44. Size however has less to do with being able to see than does the quality of the glass and coatings. Eurooptics has a 3-9x40 Conquest for $299.00. I just bought a Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10x44 and paid $369.00 from CameralandNY. Really good advice here. Glass and coatings is more important than objective size.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: XVIII]
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01/02/16 05:23 AM
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I don't mind a bigger objective for a child. Helps them locate initially better. As mentioned the 3-9x40 or 50 is a good choice. A x56 will add weight and a lil more bulkiness that u prob want to avoid. How does a bigger objective help them to locate? You have no better FOV ,no better ER,no better eye box just because you have a larger objective.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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01/02/16 06:11 AM
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I don't mind a bigger objective for a child. Helps them locate initially better. As mentioned the 3-9x40 or 50 is a good choice. A x56 will add weight and a lil more bulkiness that u prob want to avoid. How does a bigger objective help them to locate? You have no better FOV ,no better ER,no better eye box just because you have a larger objective. What? At a given power, the eye box (exit pupil) is 25% larger for a 50mm scope than a 40mm scope.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: ChrisAU]
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01/02/16 07:28 AM
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I don't mind a bigger objective for a child. Helps them locate initially better. As mentioned the 3-9x40 or 50 is a good choice. A x56 will add weight and a lil more bulkiness that u prob want to avoid. How does a bigger objective help them to locate? You have no better FOV ,no better ER,no better eye box just because you have a larger objective. What? At a given power, the eye box (exit pupil) is 25% larger for a 50mm scope than a 40mm scope. That's not always the case. Exit pupil is not the only factor in eye box.Look at the specs on scopes with a magnification factor greater than 3X. Most have much smaller exit pupils than their 3X counterparts. Even if only looking at exit pupil, low power small objective scopes can trump large hubbles,even when they have huge objectives. one of the best hunting scopes available ,the Zeiss Victory HT 1.5-6X42 has an exit pupil of 15mm-7mm. A Conquest HD5 3-15X50 has an exit pupil of 10mm-3.3mm with it's 5 times magnification factor. A Meopta MeoStar R2 2.5-15X56 a whopping huge objective,has an exit pupil of 11mm-3.73mm From these specs you can see that you can't always get the correct exit pupil by simply dividing the objective size by the magnification even if eye box was only determined by the exit pupil,which it is not. We can also see that low power scopes can have huge exit pupils without sporting huge objectives.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: FurFlyin]
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3x9x40 Some will say get a 50 mm but IMO a 50 sits way too high for a kid. Causes them to pick their head up off the stock. Agree - depending on the child's size you may still need a cheek pad to get their eye to the scope.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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01/03/16 06:02 AM
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I don't mind a bigger objective for a child. Helps them locate initially better. As mentioned the 3-9x40 or 50 is a good choice. A x56 will add weight and a lil more bulkiness that u prob want to avoid. How does a bigger objective help them to locate? You have no better FOV ,no better ER,no better eye box just because you have a larger objective. What? At a given power, the eye box (exit pupil) is 25% larger for a 50mm scope than a 40mm scope. That's not always the case. Exit pupil is not the only factor in eye box.Look at the specs on scopes with a magnification factor greater than 3X. Most have much smaller exit pupils than their 3X counterparts. Even if only looking at exit pupil, low power small objective scopes can trump large hubbles,even when they have huge objectives. one of the best hunting scopes available ,the Zeiss Victory HT 1.5-6X42 has an exit pupil of 15mm-7mm. A Conquest HD5 3-15X50 has an exit pupil of 10mm-3.3mm with it's 5 times magnification factor. A Meopta MeoStar R2 2.5-15X56 a whopping huge objective,has an exit pupil of 11mm-3.73mm From these specs you can see that you can't always get the correct exit pupil by simply dividing the objective size by the magnification even if eye box was only determined by the exit pupil,which it is not. We can also see that low power scopes can have huge exit pupils without sporting huge objectives. Right, that's why I said "at a given power." In general, at 3x power (and any given same power), a 3-9x50 scope will have a 25% larger exit pupil than a 3-9x40, and therefore 25% easier to get behind while shaking, offhand etc. Sure there are merits to the x40, that's why there are so many model available.
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Re: Decent size scope for a .243?
[Re: ChrisAU]
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01/03/16 11:34 AM
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I don't mind a bigger objective for a child. Helps them locate initially better. As mentioned the 3-9x40 or 50 is a good choice. A x56 will add weight and a lil more bulkiness that u prob want to avoid. How does a bigger objective help them to locate? You have no better FOV ,no better ER,no better eye box just because you have a larger objective. What? At a given power, the eye box (exit pupil) is 25% larger for a 50mm scope than a 40mm scope. That's not always the case. Exit pupil is not the only factor in eye box.Look at the specs on scopes with a magnification factor greater than 3X. Most have much smaller exit pupils than their 3X counterparts. Even if only looking at exit pupil, low power small objective scopes can trump large hubbles,even when they have huge objectives. one of the best hunting scopes available ,the Zeiss Victory HT 1.5-6X42 has an exit pupil of 15mm-7mm. A Conquest HD5 3-15X50 has an exit pupil of 10mm-3.3mm with it's 5 times magnification factor. A Meopta MeoStar R2 2.5-15X56 a whopping huge objective,has an exit pupil of 11mm-3.73mm From these specs you can see that you can't always get the correct exit pupil by simply dividing the objective size by the magnification even if eye box was only determined by the exit pupil,which it is not. We can also see that low power scopes can have huge exit pupils without sporting huge objectives. Right, that's why I said "at a given power." In general, at 3x power (and any given same power), a 3-9x50 scope will have a 25% larger exit pupil than a 3-9x40, and therefore 25% easier to get behind while shaking, offhand etc. Sure there are merits to the x40, that's why there are so many model available. Shoot whatever you like. There are very few rifles I can mount a 50 mm on and not have to raise my head off the stock to get behind it. In that case,it is harder for me to get behind it rather than easier.
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