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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: 256deerslayer] #1408115
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Originally Posted By: 256deerslayer
Hammerhead, I believe it's because Alabama always schedules big name teams that are on their down year. Obviously this is true see'in how VA TECH, Clemson and West Virginia were in their down yrs when BAMA played em.


I guess they get a discount on the psychic network hotline, huh? How can one team forecast 3, 4, 5 years in advance just when a team will be in a down year?

Let's check your scheduling theory...
2008 Bama was ranked #24 and clemson was ranked #9.
2009 Bama came in ranked #5 while va tech came in at #7.
2010 Bama was ranked #1 and Penn St was #18.
2011 Bama was ranked #3 and Penn St was #23
2012 Bama opened up at #2 while Michigan was ranked #8
2013 Bama came in at #1 and va tech was unranked
2014 Bama came in at #2 and wvu was unranked

Granted, the teams bama played didnt finish as high in the polls as they started but who knew exactly how each season would turn out? 2010 was a "down year" for Bama with 3 losses after starting out #1. Yet, they wound up #16 and played your #9 MSU team and destroyed them. Bama had the backups playing most of the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th. I guess the might Spartans were having a down year too, huh?

Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408220
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Hammerhead you aren't suppose to bring facts into a barner praise report. First thing you know somebody will post a rebuttal schedule from the past 7 years of barner football.

Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408227
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I guarantee you that Bama and/or Auburn will play more ranked teams this year than Michigan State will in any 3 years combined


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: timbercruiser] #1408283
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Hammerhead you aren't suppose to bring facts into a barner praise report. First thing you know somebody will post a rebuttal schedule from the past 7 years of barner football.


he's a Michigan state fan...he hates bama because of the 2011 capital one bowl when bama beat msu. He got his feelings hurt because his family made fun of msu that game. He's gonna have to grow some really thick skin if he doesn't want his feelings hurt around here.

Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408316
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well those children have only had four official days of ball-in-hand practice according to NCAA rules. Look that rule up if you do not believe me.


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: 256deerslayer] #1408430
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Originally Posted By: 256deerslayer
For all u BAMA fans tell me this= why did y'all schedule Michigan State for a non-conference game in 2011 for the 2016-17 season and then back out in 2013?? Seems like to me BAMA wants the easy road!! Haha

Ps Bama won't make the playoffs this year. I believe Wisconsin and auburn will make sure of that.


That's auburn and Bama's M.O. Auburn has backed out on the mighty Seminoles before. I just hope Bama follows thru with the opening game of 2017.

Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: Booger] #1408451
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Originally Posted By: Booger
Originally Posted By: 256deerslayer
For all u BAMA fans tell me this= why did y'all schedule Michigan State for a non-conference game in 2011 for the 2016-17 season and then back out in 2013?? Seems like to me BAMA wants the easy road!! Haha

Ps Bama won't make the playoffs this year. I believe Wisconsin and auburn will make sure of that.


That's auburn and Bama's M.O. Auburn has backed out on the mighty Seminoles before. I just hope Bama follows thru with the opening game of 2017.

Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!


Yawn.

Bama plays an opening game against a top opponent from a Power 5 conference every season. They have the toughest schedule in the nation this season. If you are going to troll at least make it intelligent.


Oh and 256.... Bama will open in 2016 with USC which will be a much higher marquee game than Bama beating the brakes off of Michigan State again.


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408472
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The waters aren't deep enough to troll in here. LOL! Not much intellect is needed to talk smack with most die hard Bama fans. smile
I don't think much of Michigan State. But so far the last time FSU has played Bama or Auburn they have won. So I like our chances.


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: Booger] #1408479
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Bama was in the first year of a major rebuilding effort so no respect for the Noles on that win.

Here's Bama's Power 5 non conference schedule since 2007 (excluding bowls).

Florida State (07')
Clemson (08')
Virginia Tech (09')
Penn State (10')
Penn State (11')
Michigan (12')
Virginia Tech (13')
West Virginia (14')
Wisconsin (15')
USC (16')
Florida State (17')
Louisville (18')

Like I said, Bama probably has one of the best non conference resume's in the country since Saban's arrival in 07. He plays those games in addition to the brutal SEC West gauntlet they run every season. Not everyone can play in a puss conference like the ACC and then schedule tough OOC games like the Texas State Bobcats, South Florida Bulls, and Chattanooga Mocs (FSU's 2015 OOC schedule).

That right there disqualifies you from talking smack about Alabama or Auburn regarding scheduling. wink


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408552
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I don't believe strength of schedule makes a team better anymore than I believe running a bird dog thru a gauntlet of rattlesnakes makes him a better bird dog. If your good, then your good. Ohio St. had a weak schedule last year and ended up beating Bama, who had a tougher schedule. So what did having a tougher schedule prove? Nothing. I think that Bama only hurts themselves by playing a tougher schedule year end and year out. How many teams in the SEC are devastated by injuries every year and finish the season without reaching a once attainable goal? A lot. I see no problems playing all takers small or big every year. It's how well you finish that seems to matter, unless your in a tiny conference and get over looked. FSU will be ready for Bama in '17 and Auburn in '18. Guaranteed. wink

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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408587
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BTW, 6 of those 12 teams on your list are in the ACC.

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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: Booger] #1408605
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I'm having a hard time following your point. First you said that Bama's MO was to take the easy road and back out of games against tough OOC opponents. Then when I destroyed that argument, now you are saying that scheduling tough OOC games is stupid and hurts you in the long run. Because when you are good you are good.

I'm coming back around to the conclusion that you are trolling and looking to fire a shot wherever you can fire a shot. Whether that shot has merit or not doesn't matter.


Yes, I am aware there are a lot of ACC teams on that list. They are still considered a Power 5 conference even if they are no more than a two team league and by far the weakest of all Power 5 conferences.


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1408614
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Slow your roll there Booger. The season hasn't even started yet. You're going to run out of material. grin


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: Phil_Army] #1408928
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Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
I guarantee you that Bama and/or Auburn will play more ranked teams this year than Michigan State will in any 3 years combined


Idc how many "ranked teams" BAMA plays. Any1 team can be beat on any given day. Just ask Michigan. (Appalachian State). Or better yet just ask any BAMA fan.(Louisiana-Monroe) LMAO

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I just find it hilarious that a Michigan State fan is gonna talk smack about another program. What history can a Michigan State fan hang his hat on....Saban use to be our coach? One of our most well known football players became famous for playing baseball and not football (Kirk Gibson)? How about Tony Mandarich, NFL bust? Perhaps a kicker, Morten Anderson float your boat? Andre "Bad Moon" Rison? A wanta be rapper turned flat ass busted broke. Wanta talk about Plaxico Burress?

They recognize 6 national championships (1951, 1952, 1955, 1957, 1965, and 1966) but my gosh, the last one came almost 50 years ago....pathetic!

Stick with basketball Sparty; you've got some ammo for that gun. Your just shooting spit wads when you try talking football smack.

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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: PaschalBD] #1409083
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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: 256deerslayer] #1409124
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Originally Posted By: 256deerslayer
Originally Posted By: Phil_Army
I guarantee you that Bama and/or Auburn will play more ranked teams this year than Michigan State will in any 3 years combined


Idc how many "ranked teams" BAMA plays. Any1 team can be beat on any given day. Just ask Michigan. (Appalachian State). Or better yet just ask any BAMA fan.(Louisiana-Monroe) LMAO


Laugh your ass off while BAMA goes for it's 8th straight 10 win season and I'll be laughing mine off while Sparty sucks again.


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Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: cgardner] #1409172
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I don't believe strength of schedule makes a team better anymore than I believe running a bird dog thru a gauntlet of rattlesnakes makes him a better bird dog.

Snakes has nothing to do with. If a bird dog can find fifteen birds in a phone booth does that make him good. Or does finding the only bird in a fifty acre field make a dog better.

Re: Initial Coach's Poll Released [Re: BC] #1409311
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Originally Posted By: BC
I'm having a hard time following your point. First you said that Bama's MO was to take the easy road and back out of games against tough OOC opponents. Then when I destroyed that argument, now you are saying that scheduling tough OOC games is stupid and hurts you in the long run. Because when you are good you are good.

I'm coming back around to the conclusion that you are trolling and looking to fire a shot wherever you can fire a shot. Whether that shot has merit or not doesn't matter.


Yes, I am aware there are a lot of ACC teams on that list. They are still considered a Power 5 conference even if they are no more than a two team league and by far the weakest of all Power 5 conferences.



First point: (albeit a jab) Was that Bama backed out on a game(for whatever reason) with MSU(a nobody in NCAA football) and Auburn backed out on what would have been an outstanding game in the mid-90's with FSU.
Second point: If Bama plays other teams that are built to be just as physical as Bama week in and week out then Bama is flirting with losing key players to injury. So why do that? Ohio St. had a less physically demanding schedule and easily defeated Bama.
Third point: Ohio st. proved that if your good then you are good. It doesn't matter how many "big name" teams you play OOC a season. (Big name teams=traditionally big name)
Fourth point: Bama is gonna get their butt spanked opening weekend 2017!

BC, I can't break it down more simple than that brother.

Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shaw, man I've been holding it in too long! smile


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Good thing Ohio state didn't have that tough ooc schedule. Couple more Virginia techs and they might not made a bowl game.

Also wouldn't say Ohio state "easily" beat Bama. They won by one td and had just over 100 yards more offense. If I remember correctly it was 21-6 at one point.

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