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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1310183
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: blumsden] #1310311
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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I've used di-calcium phosphate in a lick before, but only because i read where you should. It is a cattle supplement. What exactly does it do for deer? As BSK already said, deer are not cattle. Does anyone know, or is it just one of those things that someone come up with?


I'm no biologist, but my understanding is that protein, calcium, and phosphorus are the three main elements needed when a buck is growing his rack. Maybe one of the biologist on the site can give more info on this..

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: westflgator] #1310347
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Originally Posted By: westflgator
Originally Posted By: blumsden
I've used di-calcium phosphate in a lick before, but only because i read where you should. It is a cattle supplement. What exactly does it do for deer? As BSK already said, deer are not cattle. Does anyone know, or is it just one of those things that someone come up with?


I'm no biologist, but my understanding is that protein, calcium, and phosphorus are the three main elements needed when a buck is growing his rack. Maybe one of the biologist on the site can give more info on this..


I shared the mineral recipe with di-calcium phosphate that Fezzik posted here on Aldeer in 2002. The recipe was originally posted on mosportsman.com in the mid 90's or so by Allen "horntagger" Morris. He shared it on the QDMA website in 2003 if you care to read it westflgator.

http://www.qdma.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11


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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1310578
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I know of horntagger, we've spoke many times on the QDMA website.

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1310715
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Deer seeking salt can eat quite a hole in the ground over time. I used to prefer mounds of red clay for my lick locations, usually formed when a falling tree's root-wad pulled up a mound of red clay. However, deer can eat even the most sizeable mound of dirt into a hole in the ground in a few years. The salt lick in the below picture used to be a mound of dirt about waist high, yet by the time of the picture (13 years after establishment), deer had turned it into a pit. The tree's roots in the foreground used to be covered by at least 2 feet of dirt.


Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1310723
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1312126
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: EudonX] #1312455
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Originally Posted By: EudonX


Had neighbor that had a place with no clay, he took a small plastic kiddie pool, filled it with clay and buried it. It turned into a pretty good lick.



Good idea...hadn't thought of this. Most soils here near the coast are sandy and finding locations with the right clay content can be difficult.

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1312613
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1312647
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Fezzik] #1313652
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Originally Posted By: Fezzik
this was the most common recipe I found when researching:

Pulled from previous thread
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WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE
Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00

1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag.

2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags.

1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag.

Directions:

-Use a 3 pound or similar size coffee can to use as your measure for each part of the mix.

-Mix all together well but not until read to use, keep ingredients separate until ready to put to use.

-Dig or tear up a circle in the soil about 36 inches wide and about 6 inches deep.

-Mix your mineral mixture with the soil.

Maintenance:

-Replenish in 6 months with fresh supply of mineral, and then each year there after."


I have used a similar mix in the past with good success, but I've had a really hard time finding the Di-calcium phosphate in this are on NW FL in the last 3-4 years. I've even called CO-OPs in south AL and haven't been able to find it. However, I finally found where Consolidated Ace (hardware and farm supply)can order a 50lb bag for $33 shocked. They also said that according to the label it was 18% Di-calcium phosphate.

Is this a normal ratio, and how does it compare to what you guys have been paying?

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: westflgator] #1313771
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I hate it when they eat it down so far that the lick starts holding water.


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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: WmHunter] #1313968
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I established 2 new licks this weekend. Only put trace mineral salt since I had no di-cal and wanted to get it out before the rain. I went past one (in red clay) 48 hours after putting it out and a few hours after the rain and they had already been in it. Salt hadn't even melt yet. As I said, this is a NEW lick.

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1314133
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Put two in last Saturday. 1 part TSC General purpose mineral to 3 parts Fine Salt + 2 packs of strawberry jello powder on top. Will check this Saturday for signs of use. Picked 9 ticks off me when I got home, blood sucking bastages.


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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1317654
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We use the same mix, except we use dolomitic lime instead of the white salt. From our experiences, our deer won't touch white salt.

These licks are about 10 years old and are only 12-16" deep. The depth of a mineral lick doesn't tell me much about whether or not a deer is getting good use out of them. It just tells me that the deer are digging deep to try and find what they're looking for...We try to freshen these licks up each year in the Spring...The deer pound them from February/March through October.




Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: AUdeerhunter] #1317861
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Originally Posted By: AUdeerhunter
We use the same mix, except we use dolomitic lime instead of the white salt. From our experiences, our deer won't touch white salt.

These licks are about 10 years old and are only 12-16" deep. The depth of a mineral lick doesn't tell me much about whether or not a deer is getting good use out of them. It just tells me that the deer are digging deep to try and find what they're looking for...We try to freshen these licks up each year in the Spring...The deer pound them from February/March through October.





That's interesting!!
1). I've never heard of deer not eating salt, even in sand they will usually use it a little.
2). I've never heard of using dolomitic lime. I would like to know if there is any value to using it??

Do they eat it only after it dissolves into the ground? What type of soil?

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1317941
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I'm sorry. I meant to include that we only use the lime as a sweetener/attractant for the mineral site...to my knowledge, there's no mineral benefit to the deer (other than raising his pH)

Yes, the deer use the mineral site after it has dissolved into the soil. We take a shovel and work this mix into the soil to help speed up that process

Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1317959
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Gonna go pull my card out of my camera tomorrow that is over my site and see what has visited it since it was put out over a week ago.


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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1319364
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick [Re: Cuz-Pat] #1319381
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Got busy yesterday and did not make it down there. May try to visit it tomorrow afternoon after I get in from work.


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