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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: Atoler] #1306440
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: steelman
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looks ghey.... but I reckon it would put more wait on the rear, probably do better in the mud. not that any of those mall crawlers ever see mud


Are you searious? The weight distribution is the same either way, don't matter if it's lowered or jacked up.. now if he had a 1200 lb load of lime in the bed he would hook up wink


Yeah, I'm serious... Before you ridicule someone, why don't you brush up on your understanding of directional forces.



Not trying to ridicule anyone, just stating facts, go ahead and educate us on your directional force theories so I will better understand how a truck that's squared dpwn in the rear has better traction


ok... gravity pulls an object perpendicular to level. So, if you put a 10# book on a level coffee table, over the front legs, most of the weight rests on the front legs. But, if you take that same coffee table, and raise the front of it 15 degrees, leave the book in the same place, a portion of that weight has been diverted to the rear legs. Imagine trying to set that book on the coffee table with the front legs extended more than the back. The book would want to slide towards the back correct? That is the force being diverted to the rear. And yes, it transfers a portion of that weight to the rear, depending on the angle, and position of the book.


What? Physics isn't your strong suit is it?


I was trying to come up with an analogy. Please correct me, if raising one end of a plane, that is supported at two points, does not transfer some portion of weight to the lower support point on the plane.... because it does.


Ever carried a couch up some stairs?

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and I wasn't trying to say that the force of gravity is ever altered in any way. It is always the same.

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Originally Posted By: Atoler
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Originally Posted By: steelman
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looks ghey.... but I reckon it would put more wait on the rear, probably do better in the mud. not that any of those mall crawlers ever see mud


Are you searious? The weight distribution is the same either way, don't matter if it's lowered or jacked up.. now if he had a 1200 lb load of lime in the bed he would hook up wink


Yeah, I'm serious... Before you ridicule someone, why don't you brush up on your understanding of directional forces.



Not trying to ridicule anyone, just stating facts, go ahead and educate us on your directional force theories so I will better understand how a truck that's squared dpwn in the rear has better traction


ok... gravity pulls an object perpendicular to level. So, if you put a 10# book on a level coffee table, over the front legs, most of the weight rests on the front legs. But, if you take that same coffee table, and raise the front of it 15 degrees, leave the book in the same place, a portion of that weight has been diverted to the rear legs. Imagine trying to set that book on the coffee table with the front legs extended more than the back. The book would want to slide towards the back correct? That is the force being diverted to the rear. And yes, it transfers a portion of that weight to the rear, depending on the angle, and position of the book.


What? Physics isn't your strong suit is it?


I was trying to come up with an analogy. Please correct me, if raising one end of a plane, that is supported at two points, does not transfer some portion of weight to the lower support point on the plane.... because it does.


Ever carried a couch up some stairs?


exactly

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306444
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So you believe a couch being carried up the stairs has more weight in the lower end than the upper end because that weight IN the couch "transfers" during transit? Or a pickup with a lowered rear is heavier in the rear? Or a tilted plane is heavier in the tail than the cockpit?

What happens? Do the molecules all slide toward the bottom?


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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306445
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I'm listening confused...wasn't trying to come across as a smartass last night, I just don't see how lowering the rear of a truck will give it better traction, I could see how weight would contribute, look at a sled puller they aren't lowered but have enough counterweight on the front and rear to hook up and go...I guess I see the point kind of, still looks ghey grin

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306448
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weight distribution changes. now, whether or not 4-5" higher in the front of a truck is enough to make a "noticeable" difference, I doubt it. but yes it will change the weight distribution


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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: Clem] #1306452
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Originally Posted By: Clem

So you believe a couch being carried up the stairs has more weight in the lower end than the upper end because that weight IN the couch "transfers" during transit? Or a pickup with a lowered rear is heavier in the rear? Or a tilted plane is heavier in the tail than the cockpit?

What happens? Do the molecules all slide toward the bottom?


I believe a couch being carried up the stairs has a constant weight. I also believe that weight is supported by a structure, in this case two people, and the portion of the weight being carried by either of them can be changed by the angle of the object.

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Originally Posted By: steelman
I'm listening confused...wasn't trying to come across as a smartass last night, I just don't see how lowering the rear of a truck will give it better traction, I could see how weight would contribute, look at a sled puller they aren't lowered but have enough counterweight on the front and rear to hook up and go...I guess I see the point kind of, still looks ghey grin


A couple inches probably wouldn't matter at all, and yes it looks queer. I was just thinking maybe that was where the "look" had originally come from.

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: Atoler] #1306473
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: Clem

So you believe a couch being carried up the stairs has more weight in the lower end than the upper end because that weight IN the couch "transfers" during transit? Or a pickup with a lowered rear is heavier in the rear? Or a tilted plane is heavier in the tail than the cockpit?

What happens? Do the molecules all slide toward the bottom?


I believe a couch being carried up the stairs has a constant weight. I also believe that weight is supported by a structure, in this case two people, and the portion of the weight being carried by either of them can be changed by the angle of the object.


The weight won't change, but the center of mass will on an inclined plane. I think.

But not enough on one of those trucks to make a big difference in traction.

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306488
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So you're saying if a piece of steel, lets say angle iron, was hanging from two chains. The chains were both 1' from each end. Also, there was a scale hooked in line with the chains and each scale read 200 lbs , for example.

Now I raised one end of the steel 2', the lower end would now read more than 200 lbs and the higher scale would read less?


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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306492
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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306493
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Anyone that doesn't believe weight distribution changes things dramatically never raced anything or flew an airplane. Don't argue that fact, you'll lose. Just sayin'.

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Originally Posted By: mirage243
Anyone that doesn't believe weight distribution changes things dramatically never raced anything or flew an airplane. Don't argue that fact, you'll lose. Just sayin'.


well, I mean, there's probably a bunch of folks here that never raced anything or flew airplanes.....

but yes weight distribution can be affected


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Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306517
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or how about this tool

https://youtu.be/14ob6kPPIEw

HAHA

Jacked up truck that the only off road it has seen was when it is on the grass when he washes it.

Has a diesel and probably hasn't towed anything that comes anywhere near the towing capacity

big mudding tires see above

awesome light bar for off roading see above

Nice work boots, camo wheel cover then..... Rap music...

hahahahahaahaha

His dad should've pulled out

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: Bigbamaboy] #1306524
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Originally Posted By: Bigbamaboy
So you're saying if a piece of steel, lets say angle iron, was hanging from two chains. The chains were both 1' from each end. Also, there was a scale hooked in line with the chains and each scale read 200 lbs , for example.

Now I raised one end of the steel 2', the lower end would now read more than 200 lbs and the higher scale would read less?


in short yes

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Originally Posted By: Ian
or how about this tool

https://youtu.be/14ob6kPPIEw

HAHA

Jacked up truck that the only off road it has seen was when it is on the grass when he washes it.

Has a diesel and probably hasn't towed anything that comes anywhere near the towing capacity

big mudding tires see above

awesome light bar for off roading see above

Nice work boots, camo wheel cover then..... Rap music...

hahahahahaahaha

His dad should've pulled out


Pretty nice truck actually

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: Bigbamaboy] #1306534
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Originally Posted By: Bigbamaboy
So you're saying if a piece of steel, lets say angle iron, was hanging from two chains. The chains were both 1' from each end. Also, there was a scale hooked in line with the chains and each scale read 200 lbs , for example.

Now I raised one end of the steel 2', the lower end would now read more than 200 lbs and the higher scale would read less?


Take it to this extreme: take that piece of angle iron and stand it at 90* from the floor. Where's all the weight now. And as you let the piece back down to 0*, the weight gradually balances.

Re: Young douchebag trend. [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1306544
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i think whats changes is the center of gravity or cg for short


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