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Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. #1283234
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I need a bat for my 6 year old. He swung my oldest son's Easton 28/18 composite bat at try outs. And he hit it to the outfield. I had him choke up on the bat, so I'm thinking a 27 inch bat would be perfect. But I'm torn on the weight. He slugged it to the outfield with the 18oz...but I'm thinking the 17oz may be better.

I'm thinking shorter bat, same weight(mass)...that he may have more control with that weight..

But.. A lighter bat (17oz) he may have more bat speed.

Any thoughts?

Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283238
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If you can measure the batspeed (radar gun, Setpro equipment, etc.) then experiment with different weights and lengths and you will find a range of 3-5 ounces where you have good bat speed. Heavier, the speed drops too much, lighter, no appreciable gain.
Hitters should use bats in the upper end of the good range, then maybe drop an ounce for a particularly fast pitcher or if not feeling 100%. Lighter isn't better. Too heavy is death. Too light is counterproductive


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Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283240
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What size is he? That has more to do with it than age.

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Honestly, my 8yo swings a 29/19 but he weighs 105 pounds.

I would go with a 26/16 for his age.

Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283332
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28" is way to big for 95% of 6 yr olds. Bats that are too long or too heavy lead to bad swing mechanics. Bad swing mechanics are a muscle memory issue that starts the first time the kid picks up a bat. Older they get, the harder it is to correct. I would not worry about how far a six year old hits it. I'd concentrate on making sure he was using the proper grip, stance, hand position, tall on the backside, keeping front shoulder closed, short to it and long through it, staying over and rotating through the ball. Concentrate your efforts here and the results will follow. Basic rule of thumb is have him stand up straight with his hands by his side. measure from the floor to the joint in his wrist. That will get you in the ballpark. Will probably be a 25 or 26" bat. -10 or -12 is totally dependent on how strong he is.

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Originally Posted By: abolt300
28" is way to big for 95% of 6 yr olds. Bats that are too long or too heavy lead to bad swing mechanics. Bad swing mechanics are a muscle memory issue that starts the first time the kid picks up a bat. Older they get, the harder it is to correct. I would not worry about how far a six year old hits it. I'd concentrate on making sure he was using the proper grip, stance, hand position, tall on the backside, keeping front shoulder closed, short to it and long through it, staying over and rotating through the ball. Concentrate your efforts here and the results will follow. Basic rule of thumb is have him stand up straight with his hands by his side. measure from the floor to the joint in his wrist. That will get you in the ballpark. Will probably be a 25 or 26" bat. -10 or -12 is totally dependent on how strong he is.


thumbup I'd say you've probably coached a time or two.

"Most" 6 year olds are going to be in the 12-15oz range. The 28-29" bat is also likely too long. I've got one 6 year old that swings a 25/13 and one that swings a 29/19 so there are obvious broad ends of the spectrum but 95% of them are probably going to fit a 25-26" bat and 13-15oz. Work on the fundamentals first. They are much easier taught correctly the first time than retaught later on.


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Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: abolt300] #1283428
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Originally Posted By: abolt300
28" is way to big for 95% of 6 yr olds. Bats that are too long or too heavy lead to bad swing mechanics. Bad swing mechanics are a muscle memory issue that starts the first time the kid picks up a bat. Older they get, the harder it is to correct. I would not worry about how far a six year old hits it. I'd concentrate on making sure he was using the proper grip, stance, hand position, tall on the backside, keeping front shoulder closed, short to it and long through it, staying over and rotating through the ball. Concentrate your efforts here and the results will follow. Basic rule of thumb is have him stand up straight with his hands by his side. measure from the floor to the joint in his wrist. That will get you in the ballpark. Will probably be a 25 or 26" bat. -10 or -12 is totally dependent on how strong he is.


I'll measure to his wrist when I get home and get that measurement. He used a 27/17 during the fall and did pretty good with it. He hit his coach in the forehead with the ball. So he had decent speed off the bat. It just gets aggravating buying a bat. When you drop $100-$200 on bats, you really try to get it right. But on the other side of that, you try to get a few years out of the bat. Thanks.

Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283440
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At these young ages, you might have 2 or 3 bat sizes a year. Too heavy and too long will cause bad mechanics. You've gotten some good advice. Good Luck with your season and make it fun.

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Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283473
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My youngest son plays on a pretty good travel ball team. They are all 9 year olds and most of them are swinging 28/18s. I can think of only one that's got a 29, and personally, I think it's too much. I don't know of any 6 year olds that can handle a 28. CD.

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Do NOT buy a $500 bat for a first year player. Plan on buying him a couple of used bats per year. When he out grows them give them to other players or sell them.

If he is a big 6yr old:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WORTH-COPPERHEAD...=item27f7f4bca4


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Originally Posted By: CD
My youngest son plays on a pretty good travel ball team. They are all 9 year olds and most of them are swinging 28/18s. I can think of only one that's got a 29, and personally, I think it's too much. I don't know of any 6 year olds that can handle a 28. CD.


thumbup Ya want the kid to swing the bat, not the bat swing the kid.



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Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283773
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He's 47 inches tall and 60 lbs. The wrist measurement puts him at 22.5 inches. He had a 25 inch bat last year and it was too small.

I think I'm going to let him use a few before I decide on a bat. See which ones he likes. I've went through this with my oldest son. But he wasn't as strong as my youngest one at this age.

Re: Baseball Bat question for the coaches here. [Re: JSanford1974] #1283799
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I'd look in the 25-27" range and in the 13-17oz range. Easton's made the S1, S3, XL3 and Mako bats the past few yrs. Theyre in the $50-150 range used/new and are good value for what you're getting IMO. I prefer the larger barrels at this age but make sure they're allowed in your league.

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I've always heard that you let him grab the bat at the end and hold it horizontal straight out in front of him, if he can't hold it for 10 seconds it's to heavy.


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Dear God in heaven above,
However did DiMaggio, Ruth, Cobb, Aaron, Rose, Carew, etc. ....ever manage to learn to hit without a hot bat? And why do most successful HS and college program do most BP with a "wooden" bat? And how were they ever discovered by a scout without playing 8 year old travel ball? And when will Mizuno come out with a bat so hot a kid can swing it one handed and bust the hill at Williamsport?

Thanks,
Jay

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Originally Posted By: JayHook
Dear God in heaven above,
However did DiMaggio, Ruth, Cobb, Aaron, Rose, Carew, etc. ....ever manage to learn to hit without a hot bat? And why do most successful HS and college program do most BP with a "wooden" bat? And how were they ever discovered by a scout without playing 8 year old travel ball? And when will Mizuno come out with a bat so hot a kid can swing it one handed and bust the hill at Williamsport?

Thanks,
Jay


What does this have to do with his question about bat size?

I would go with a 26 if my son was thst size. I fact, that is what he used at that size.

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My 6 yo son uses a 26/16.

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He's 6....don't put a lot of thought into it. Go to walmart and buy him a $20 easton that is 27/14 and be done with it. Make sure he swings level and you should be ok for his first year.


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The cheaper bats that are more than -12 will dent when hitting a pitched ball vs a stationary one on a tee.


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