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Old topic but let's try to be civil #814299
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Corn,feeding,baiting or whatever we want to refer to it as. I'm curious to know actual experiences people have had with this. If you think it turns them nocturnal why? I know people will say mature deer 3 plus year olds don't come to corn etc. why is that? What are your thoughts? Is supplemental feeding worth it? How many tons of supplemental feed do you guys use? Lastly if they allow you to hunt over corn will it help or hurt hunting overall? Let's be civil and nobody can say I'm getting the popcorn haha! All opinions are wanted. I personally have hunted over corn in Georgia and saw lots of deer. Friend of mine has a good lease and they kill some great 120-140 inch deer. They don't plant at all just throw some corn. Whether we agree or not it's legal and they are killing good ones. Or is corn just another crutch when we don't see deer? I'm anxious to hear from others who have personally hunted in places that allow this. Matt Brock, Troy and several others who has a vast knowledge of deer hopefully will chime in. Troy def will just to bust my chops a little but hey that's what old timers do! I had to tebow the first punch haha!

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814327
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Popcorn anyone?

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814329
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I already got that taken care of

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814335
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beter get some cold beer too....


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814339
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If fed consistently mature deer will come to feeding stations on a regular basis. I've seen hundreds of pics of them coming to troughs daylight and dark to eat. They will come back and check them regularly to see if anything has been put back in before the rule was passed and you could feed.


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814342
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I already got that taken care of

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: BhamFred] #814344
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If I had a bag of Corn Nuts (ranch flavor) in my tree stand and happened to drop a few. Then Mr.Green jeans shows up, am I in trouble?

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Ive hunted in Texas and filmed there and corn is used everywhere there we hunted. We shot and filmed tons of good bucks dying at feeders.
My friend lives in Ohio and he shot a 190 inch deer off his corn pile this fall.
Another friend from here in Alabama went up to Ohio and shot a mid 140s off corn at his friends house.
What I DONT like is this STUPID law currently put forth by Alabama. Either you can hunt over corn..or you cant. This BS of 100 yards or more and out of sight is just ridiculous.

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814346
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only time I've hunted over corn was in Florida for pigs. The deer, mostly does, would come in even after the smelled you. I guess they smelled people all the time who filled the feeders? They were spooky but came it anyway.

I think that 24/7 free choice bait/feed will tend to make deer, bucks at least, more nocturnal. They walk up at their choice , eat, and go lay up to chew their cud. Same as when there is an overabundance of acorns...lots of eating/little movement.

Tebow is a p***y and cries at ballgames.....

I'll get another beer...


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814353
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I have hunted over corn troy can vouch for me on that smile. I have never killed a mature deer over corn. I know lots of people that have though. From my experience I can definitely draw a bunch of deer to a corn pile or feeder but I also put my scent in a deer's feeding area. I prefer to stay out of feeding areas and use wind to conceal my presence while watching the area. To me I would rather hunt without corn and attempt to kill a deer that has no idea I exist than to try and kill one that knows when I am there by my feeding him.

I also think the property makes a difference and the consistency in which you feed them makes a difference as well. Some land have deer that just are not as bothered by humans as other deer are. If you can afford feed enough feed consistently the older deer can get used to it, just look at Texas.

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: Ben2] #814365
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
I have hunted over corn troy can vouch for me on that smile.


THIS ^^^ needs it's own thread. Gotta be an entertaining story laugh


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: BhamFred] #814395
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred


I think that 24/7 free choice bait/feed will tend to make deer, bucks at least, more nocturnal. They walk up at their choice , eat, and go lay up to chew their cud. Same as when there is an overabundance of acorns...lots of eating/little movement.

I'll get another beer...


This makes sense in theory, but I don't know where you draw the line. What if my 5 acre turnip/winter pea patch just came up to dang well...should I round up half of it so the deer will move more?

I really just feel that baiting is an impossible thing for wardens to effectively police, and the efforts should be abandoned. Then at least the playing field would be even for those not willing to break the law (probably the minority). GW's have much more significant duties than citing folks for killing deer over an incorrect type of artificial food source.

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I don't put it out until February. But I wish it was legal to hunt over. Not for deer though........for hogs.

I have no interest in hunting deer over corn. Just my personal opinion.

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First need to know if the deer will be left in a cooler full of ice after the kill

Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: Wiley Coyote] #814448
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
I have hunted over corn troy can vouch for me on that smile.


THIS ^^^ needs it's own thread. Gotta be an entertaining story laugh


Not much of a story, however troy is hard to out run on foot. He is lot faster than he looks.







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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: Ben2] #814454
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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814468
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Troy, you are a woodsman and truly a steward! Never have I respected you more than I do now! Tebow sucks haha! In all honesty I see both sides of the fence. I see it making them nocturnal by not having to move and I see them getting used to feed stations and I do agree it must be something that is done year round and let them get accustomed to the feed! @ Ben at least you can tell the truth and say you have hunted over corn haha! Outdoor obsession although we have disagreed before I agree with you totally legalize it or let it go away! And by the way your still the man!

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Originally Posted By: Ike McCaslin
Originally Posted By: BhamFred


I think that 24/7 free choice bait/feed will tend to make deer, bucks at least, more nocturnal. They walk up at their choice , eat, and go lay up to chew their cud. Same as when there is an overabundance of acorns...lots of eating/little movement.

I'll get another beer...


This makes sense in theory, but I don't know where you draw the line. What if my 5 acre turnip/winter pea patch just came up to dang well...should I round up half of it so the deer will move more?

I really just feel that baiting is an impossible thing for wardens to effectively police, and the efforts should be abandoned. Then at least the playing field would be even for those not willing to break the law (probably the minority). GW's have much more significant duties than citing folks for killing deer over an incorrect type of artificial food source.


to me anyway, the difference is a mature bucks reluctance to walk in the open fields once pressure is on VS putting the feeder in the woods so that same buck can eat in a less stresssful place. Put that feeder in a thicket on the edge of his bedding area and it might work in daylight. Not trying to give some of ya'lll any ideas..... cool

I think proper placement of the feeder could help hold does close by and therefore bucks in the rut period. Never tried it, might work.

I'm getting another beer....


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814718
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I have used corn in the woods to keep does frequenting the area but don't hunt this area until the last 2 weeks during the rut, but stop putting out corn the first week of January to allow all corn to be gone. The bucks know the does have been here a lot and they will come thru there at all times of day looking for hot does.


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Re: Old topic but let's try to be civil [Re: coach2] #814770
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My only question is why does the 10 day rule play any part in the feeding.... I guess after 10 days the deer's memory goes blank? Or it's either ample time for the deer to forget where it was.... Or after the tenth day the deer give up and go elsewhere.... So I guess 12 or 15 or 20 days is too much for the deer to look back on... This rule has made nonsense to me for many years... Either put it out during season or don't.... I figure since you can put it out during season the biologist/ lawmakers have evidence the deer won't return to that spot after the tenth day.... loco


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