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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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Not all are done online and some require a handwriting sample.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I seriously doubt if a person is qualified they are not going to get tapped for an interview because of there penmanship. Most job applications are filled out online and them resumes are submitted. Two years ago I had a manager at a Dollar General show me how they would look at the applicants penmanship and determine whether or not to call that person in for an interview.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I'm pretty sure that the administrators can turn on the cameras and mics on these devises remotely. "Oh, I was just trying to locate a missing ipad". Uh, Yea. With all of the teachers, coaches, and other school personnel that wind up on the 10:00 o'clock news for sexual offences, that scares the crap outta me.
I know that most teachers are not like that, but just like cops, Priests, social workers and any other profession that works with kids every day, there are a few worthless ones out there.
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mic = Well I don't know yet. More tape? Drill? Hammer?
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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So a teacher is going to randomly monitor what each student is doing in all of her classes, with what time? When will the first lawsuit come come over privacy, or the first perv teacher cuts on the camera to spy on a student using the tablet in the bathroom or at home. You really think it won't happen
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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How many people on here even have a clue what the education system is like today, this is not the same system from 20 yrs ago, not even 10 yrs ago.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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How many people on here even have a clue what the education system is like today, this is not the same system from 20 yrs ago, not even 10 yrs ago. I have a clue. I have a wife that teaches in it and two kids that go to public school. Having said that, I do not think that changing from paper books to electronic books with an electronic device is going to cause much problems. I doubt they have any social media installed on them, and I doubt that they won't have a firewall set up for safety. And you are 100% correct - school now is totally different than it was 20 years ago. I think the students need all the tools they can get at their disposal in order to achieve what is asked of them today.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I wish I could opt out of paying taxes for the school system. Yeah. We home school. In order to do that, my wife doesn't work. I make decent money, but it is still hard in a one income family. If they let me keep what I pay in property tax each year, it would cover a good portion of what we pay to teach the kids each year.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I have a clue too. Retired from Hsv City Schools last year. I was at Grissom when they did the conversion to laptops for two thousand kids. There is a firewall but the kids quickly learn how to get around it. Used to be the jock was the hero - now its the computer geek who can blow through firewalls and get to porn and cool games without getting caught. Had one girl with computer problems and when checked found she had 200 plus youtube videos on hers. Kids play games constantly. Have repeated problems getting assigned homework done because of bandwith use between the hours of 4-10 pm. Assignments are all done on PCs, files get lost/corrupted/software problems regularly. Kids do not know how to write. If a kid doesn't have internet at home he has to go to the library to do assignments. Kids lose them, drop them, spill drinks on them, leave them in the rain, and they are stolen. Its a damn circus. Batteries constantly needing charged. Fifty per cent of a teacher's time is dealing with software stuff or new training on how to use it. I do not miss it at all. Only good part is you don't have to make them sit and be quiet. They have their faces in the screens. I recommend home schooling whenever asked.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I wish I could opt out of paying taxes for the school system. Amen
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I have a clue too. Retired from Hsv City Schools last year. I was at Grissom when they did the conversion to laptops for two thousand kids. There is a firewall but the kids quickly learn how to get around it. Used to be the jock was the hero - now its the computer geek who can blow through firewalls and get to porn and cool games without getting caught. Had one girl with computer problems and when checked found she had 200 plus youtube videos on hers. Kids play games constantly. Have repeated problems getting assigned homework done because of bandwith use between the hours of 4-10 pm. Assignments are all done on PCs, files get lost/corrupted/software problems regularly. Kids do not know how to write. If a kid doesn't have internet at home he has to go to the library to do assignments. Kids lose them, drop them, spill drinks on them, leave them in the rain, and they are stolen. Its a damn circus. Batteries constantly needing charged. Fifty per cent of a teacher's time is dealing with software stuff or new training on how to use it. I do not miss it at all. Only good part is you don't have to make them sit and be quiet. They have their faces in the screens. I recommend home schooling whenever asked. At least a few get what Im talking about unfortunately too many have their heads buried in the sand. After what I saw was going on in the schools we swapped to homeschooling and I as well recommend it or private school to everyone. The kids are not learning they are playing and not having to learn, I listened to a principle tell the teachers to whatever they have to in order to pass students because do many had failed the exit exam, then I saw what that"whatever they have too" consisted of.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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You couldn't be more wrong. My head is not buried in the sand at all. My wife is very involved in the school system my children attend. She serves on the PTO board and is at the school as often as she can be. We have been very happy with our school system up to this point. Parental involvement and the quality of teachers makes or breaks a child's learning experience. Private school and home school isn't the answer for everybody.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I wish I could opt out of paying taxes for the school system. Amen There's a bunch of stuff I wish I could opt out of.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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Everything should shift to laptops or iPads as soon as possible, online courses and materials should be updated to be the best they can possibly be, and some of the idiotic bullshit being taught or offered in schools today should be replaced with practical information to help these younger generations be more ready for the 21st century.
WTH does a kid today need to waste time learning about dinosaurs from 4,000 years ago, a Chinese dynasty or reading Beowulf? They don't. Would they be better served learning a foreign language, better and real-life English-Math-Sciences, more computer skills and having mandatory typing? Yes, because many jobs today require both. Making those "optional" or "electives" is stupid. They should be, and in some areas are, begun early in the education system and ramped as kids progress.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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Parental involvement and the quality of teachers makes or breaks a child's learning experience. Very much so.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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I wish I could opt out of paying taxes for the school system. This ^^^^^
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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Personally, I think digital textbooks is not a bad idea, but I would just issue the students an e-reader of some sort that had the only function of being an e-reader, not an iPad or a laptop computer. I think there is a fallacy in thinking that just because the kids are exposed to "technology" or able to use "technology" that they are somehow smarter, more educated, prepared, etc. We need to realize that the previous generations were much more "smarter" and able to reason and think clearly than we are now. Technology for us today has become a crutch for weak thinking and poor reasoning. We stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before us. Full disclaimer, I scrape by to send my kids to private school, though I know this is not for everoyne. Otherwise, we would most likely homeschool. Michelle Malkin has been following the Common Core stuff for some time and also has written a bit about the "EduTech" boondoggle. Here is an article: http://michellemalkin.com/2014/01/08/common-core-and-the-edutech-abyss/
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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Technology for us today has become a crutch for weak thinking and poor reasoning. I'd disagree. It's a crutch only for those who use it as such, instead of using it to broaden their minds and learn more.
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Re: Thoughts on Digital Textbooks in Alabama Public Schools
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Technology for us today has become a crutch for weak thinking and poor reasoning. I'd disagree. It's a crutch only for those who use it as such, instead of using it to broaden their minds and learn more. I agree with Clem but unfortunately with today's society being more about instant gratification instead of wisdom and being future minded I feel those that use it for good are now the minority.
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I have a clue too. Retired from Hsv City Schools last year. I was at Grissom when they did the conversion to laptops for two thousand kids. There is a firewall but the kids quickly learn how to get around it. Used to be the jock was the hero - now its the computer geek who can blow through firewalls and get to porn and cool games without getting caught. Had one girl with computer problems and when checked found she had 200 plus youtube videos on hers. Kids play games constantly. Have repeated problems getting assigned homework done because of bandwith use between the hours of 4-10 pm. Assignments are all done on PCs, files get lost/corrupted/software problems regularly. Kids do not know how to write. If a kid doesn't have internet at home he has to go to the library to do assignments. Kids lose them, drop them, spill drinks on them, leave them in the rain, and they are stolen. Its a damn circus. Batteries constantly needing charged. Fifty per cent of a teacher's time is dealing with software stuff or new training on how to use it. I do not miss it at all. Only good part is you don't have to make them sit and be quiet. They have their faces in the screens. I recommend home schooling whenever asked. At least a few get what Im talking about unfortunately too many have their heads buried in the sand. After what I saw was going on in the schools we swapped to homeschooling and I as well recommend it or private school to everyone. The kids are not learning they are playing and not having to learn, I listened to a principle tell the teachers to whatever they have to in order to pass students because do many had failed the exit exam, then I saw what that"whatever they have too" consisted of. Our school system is very good and the academic focus is intense. I was not required to do anywhere close to what my son has to do in school. My wife is a kindergarten teacher. In the 15 years she has been teaching she says the shift towards more academics is crazy. When she first started, kids had to know the ABC and to go to first grade. Now, they expect children to be reading by the end of kindergarten. You should not lump all public schools together. There are some public school systems in Alabama that are a LOT better than some of the private schools around. There are private schools that don't even require you to have a college degree to teach in them. I also have a problem with some people home schooling. In my opinion, if you want to home school your kids, you should at least be able to pass test showing you are not a complete idiot. I know some people that pulled there kids so they could get a "better education". Only problem is the parents barely made it out of high school. WTF are they going to teach them? There was a secretary at my old law firm that was home schooling her high school aged son. Only problem, she worked full time. Explain that to me.
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