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Re: good representative buck [Re: Ivory_man] #874017
02/22/14 10:46 AM
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Agreed
Originally Posted By: Ivory_man
Unbelievable! And people wonder why you can't kill big bucks! Everything is wrongly managed!

Re: good representative buck [Re: swampstalker] #874020
02/22/14 11:00 AM
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What Danny said!!! A 2 1/2 yr old 12" 6-8pt weighing 140-150#...and one more thing is it takes a big, long deer to top 200#...and most 200# hogs and deer in Alabama weigh a good, solid 160#.

Re: good representative buck [Re: striker6126] #874180
02/22/14 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: striker6126
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
110", 3.5YO, 8 pt , about 140-150 lbs dressed is bout as good as it gets most places in the Heart of Dixie.


I disagree , Most don't get to live that long around here.


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Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #874522
02/23/14 02:51 AM
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The winner is: Danny from Thomasville!!!!!!!!!! He speaketh the truthfuth.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #874719
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Yep. He does.

If you walk into nearly any taxidermy shops in AL the representative buck to be mounted is a 3.5 year old 110" buck that will weigh 140-170. There are some giants hanging up in a lot of taxidermy shops, but they aren't representative.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #874756
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Average "shooter" buck in bama 2.5 yo 150-170lbs 8pt 100-110". It's what most people would call a mistake, ground shrinkage blah blah, but 95% of Alabama hunters would shoot it, and most would swear its 120-130" until they walk up on it dead.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #875599
02/24/14 04:55 AM
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Yea, if there's one thing i've found out on this website, is there's a lot BS. I agree with Matt on what a representative buck is. If you believe what you read on here, 200# bucks are common, 150# doe are common, and 130" deer are routine. Truth is most people can't age deer,or score deer, accurately.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #875948
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Re: good representative buck [Re: Talltines] #876171
02/24/14 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Talltines
Milk still dripping from its mouth.

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Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: good representative buck [Re: 2Dogs] #876261
02/24/14 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
110", 3.5YO, 8 pt , about 140-150 lbs dressed is bout as good as it gets most places in the Heart of Dixie.

Gotta disagree my friend. Me and my Pa haven't killed a buck as you've described in since weelllll since my first buck. Being selective works well. In the last 2 years I've killed 2 bucks weighing over 220 lbs.




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Re: good representative buck [Re: Bamabucks14] #876409
02/24/14 04:23 PM
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Bamabucks14, the tread is about a good representative buck for most of Alabama. I guess one could say the norm, best one could hope for, etc. The 2 you posted are well beyond the norm for a good representative for Alabama.

BTW my weight number was field dressed, if you and your dad are killing bucks regularly over 220 field dressed that's some grown uns. However, 220 live weight is above average for sure , and is about 160 field dressed, still fairly common.

Nice bucks BTW.



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Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876413
02/24/14 04:24 PM
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Bamabucks14, his point was in most places by most people. There are plenty of deer like the ones you've killed hitting the ground each year, but that is not what most places or hunters are killing.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876440
02/24/14 04:43 PM
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I understand both of you guys, I was only stating the norm for the property I hunt. Which I understand is not the normal weight for all of AL. We've been selective with the bucks we take for many years and as a result our "norms" are higher in weight. Btw a 220 lb deer does not weigh 160 dressed, I've never come across a gut that weighed 60 lbs. either way this is my normal weight of deer, racks vary but idk for the rest of AL


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Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876448
02/24/14 04:47 PM
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A 160 dressed weight is approximately 210 live, 170 dressed, 220 live.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Bamabucks14] #876470
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Originally Posted By: Bamabucks14
I've never come across a gut that weighed 60 lbs.


I've seen quite a few. I think by Matt's formula that would be field dressing about 190, again not common. We see several 180+ FD and every now and then one north of 200 in Jackson Co.

Had one killed about a mile North of me this year field dressed 210 . I saw it on the scales and have a pic of the scale reading. Friend killed one last year about 5 miles away that went 212 field dressed. 2 absolute full grown bucks, but not good representatives of what Jackson has to offer.

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Re: good representative buck [Re: Bamabucks14] #876652
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Originally Posted By: Bamabucks14
I understand both of you guys, I was only stating the norm for the property I hunt. Which I understand is not the normal weight for all of AL. We've been selective with the bucks we take for many years and as a result our "norms" are higher in weight. Btw a 220 lb deer does not weigh 160 dressed, I've never come across a gut that weighed 60 lbs. either way this is my normal weight of deer, racks vary but idk for the rest of AL


Move along, dude. This thread isn't about showing us how far you can piss or how great you are with your big time 220 lbs bucks. Those kind of weights are in no way representative of a garden variety Alabama buck. Your posts all are the same with your elitist attitude. We`re all very proud of your selective harvest techniques, however, it does nothing to advance this conversation. Great, impressed, wow....whatever, move along.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876660
02/24/14 06:54 PM
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^^^^^ listen to this. Bama you obviously don't understand. 220 maybe the average weight of the bucks you choose to shoot, but I can say almost without a doubt that 220 is not the average weight of all the bucks living on your property.

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Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876717
02/25/14 02:01 AM
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As i've said before, and will say again, most people don't actually weigh their deer, and therefore don't have a freaking clue.

Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876774
02/25/14 03:30 AM
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We killed about 40 bucks at our club in chilton county 10,000 acres. The heaviest deer killed was around 190 live weight but the average was around 145. We killed a few over 150 but most were 130-145 live and yes I know most were 2 1/2. Our 3 year olds averaged 160-180 but we only killed 5-8 of them all year. That isn't taking into consideration all the spikes killed and there were a bunch. My earlier post was about what a nice buck for my area would be not the normal kill for the area.


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Re: good representative buck [Re: Morgan] #876785
02/25/14 03:38 AM
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LOL... just reading and thinking of a comparison.... Hollywood, CA representative of an average woman. Afghanistan representative of a woman.

It's all relative! I still agree with Hogwild (Danny). Anyway, a 130' eight pt, 4 yr old buck is a great buck in most of Alabama.

Not to say that that 2Dogs has to kick these kind of bucks out of the way to climb a tree where he hunts!!

LOL! 2Dog, I love to give you hell about Jackson Co. I wish I hunted up there!!!! grin Two years ago, my "duck" hunting friend shot a 170" eight up there. 170" eight pt? 170 and eight point don't even sound right. Throw the state, Alabama in there and the three just don't go together at all!!!

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