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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #830812
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Originally Posted by T-town
I agree with ya'll. No different than any other food source IMO.


Put a pile of corn in the middle of a food plot and see if the deer don't go straight to it instead of eating the grass or whatever you have planted,it is different than any other food source

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831004
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There is no doubt that deer love corn, but it won't make a deer any more nocturnal than planting a green field, oaks dropping acorns, or persimmons falling will.

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: trox28] #831013
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Originally Posted by trox28
Originally Posted by T-town
Didn't want to hijack another thread, but something EarlPitts said reminded me. I've heard several people blame feeding corn as the culprit of low deer sightings this season. What's yall's opinions on deer becoming nocturnal due to corn? I'm interested to hear the basis of these theories.


The people whos blaming corn on low deer sighting dont have corn out.All the deer are on their neighbors property rolling in his cornpile during the day and have no reason to come to the property with no corn.Duh


I have heard a lot of folks say this very thing grin


Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831017
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It only makes them nocturnal AFTER it is picked!!!

If you plant it and leave it standing it has no known side-effects!

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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831025
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I just finished reading Dr. Sheppard's book "Whitetails". According to his data it doesn't matter, 90-99% of feeding (depending on conditions) is going to be done at night regardless if its a corn pile or green patch. I know many here have read the book, for those who haven't-get it!!

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831059
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I personally was torn on the issue and have seen instances where it seemed otherwise. We started running gravity feeders this season as it's legal now. Well we have pictures of every mature deer that we have had on camera all season at the feeder and in daylight. I was shocked. Now notice I said mature deer. They aren't studs by any means but they are mature! They don't realize what their rack looks like haha! So my opinion is this..........as hunters we make too many excuses as to why we aren't seeing deer or killing deer. I've heard it's been too cold this year. Well last season it was warm. Or the corn debate. Me personally I've seen two racked bucks on a place with minimal pressure in an area that should be really good. Is it corn? Don't think so I've went seasons before and never saw a racked deer one and we had zero feeders. Some places are hard hunts and my place happens to be on of those. But I'll keep trying!

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: coach2] #831085
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Originally Posted by coach2
.as hunters we make too many excuses as to why we aren't seeing deer or killing deer.


Amen!

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831116
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I think corn may be good somewhat.But I wouldn't try to replace habitat with it.The nocturnal thing can be multiple factors,pressure being the biggest.Another thought would be...If the deer knows the food is there why move during daylight to eat it?Corn or greenfield.I have some success with filling a five gallon bucket up with fallen acorns and relocating them to a deer trail.Scatter them out naturally and put some vanilla scent out along with a trail cam.My trail cam can hold 2500 pics so I checked it 3 weeks after.Daylight feeding was more than at night.Nothing I want too hunt though.So I didn't even bother going too that spot.

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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: ridgestalker] #831223
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
If you put a peckerhead sitting on top of it every time they come it probably would.


Truest thing ever said about hunting over corn.....

Like everything else in life...there is an art to it...


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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: trox28] #831279
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Originally Posted by trox28
Originally Posted by T-town
Didn't want to hijack another thread, but something EarlPitts said reminded me. I've heard several people blame feeding corn as the culprit of low deer sightings this season. What's yall's opinions on deer becoming nocturnal due to corn? I'm interested to hear the basis of these theories.


The people whos blaming corn on low deer sighting dont have corn out.All the deer are on their neighbors property rolling in his cornpile during the day and have no reason to come to the property with no corn.Duh

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A deer is nocturnal by nature. Corn does not make a deer nocturnal. I have seen trail can pics on places where there is no hunting pressure. Most pics are still at night. Ride down hwy 119, Liberty Park at 5pm and then at 11pm. Guess which time you will see more deer.

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: foghorn] #831740
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Originally Posted by foghorn
you are so scared of corn feeders you would think it was the black plaque!! Corn has nothing to do with anything but bad hunters and laziness. Hunted over corn for years deer sightings go up and first and then go down over time!!


Geez he was just asking opinions. And you've been hunting over corn for years? Talk about laziness dude. What is your definition of a "good" hunter?

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Originally Posted by NOALA
Originally Posted by foghorn
you are so scared of corn feeders you would think it was the black plaque!! Corn has nothing to do with anything but bad hunters and laziness. Hunted over corn for years deer sightings go up and first and then go down over time!!


Geez he was just asking opinions. And you've been hunting over corn for years? Talk about laziness dude. What is your definition of a "good" hunter?



Anyone who wants to see just how "lazy" keeping corn out needs to come sack corn with me 2 nights a week after dark...and feed all of it after dark. You go to slinging around those 75-85 pound "big boy bags" ( as another illustrious aldeer member called them...who just so happens couldn't kill an alligator at a gator farm) by the truckload you wouldn't be calling it "lazy"...

You'd be calling it a pain in the A$$....


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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: wardaddy] #831827
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Originally Posted by wardaddy
I just finished reading Dr. Sheppard's book "Whitetails". According to his data it doesn't matter, 90-99% of feeding (depending on conditions) is going to be done at night regardless if its a corn pile or green patch. I know many here have read the book, for those who haven't-get it!!


Don't buy that number at all, lower the human pressure lower the percentage feeding at night. It's not the corn, it's not the wide open food plots, it's not the wide open hardwood timber that causes them to be shy in daytime it's the human pressure. IE pouring a bag of corn out every day or two and hunting it day after day, shooting alot in plots, over hunting stands, not hunting smart, riding 4 wheelers all over the property, game cameras in season, and so on.

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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #831831
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A hunter in sight of corn is just a reassurance to them that says "Yep, I really am a lazy person and maybe I am a terrible hunter too" Hunting whitetails is like hunting other kind of whitetails, If you cant get one on your own you think its ok to brag about one you went out and bought or in this case SIT OVER CORN. Be honest to folks during your story, say well it all started when I went out to my cornpile and...bla bla...! Let people decide what kind of hunter you really are.

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Avengesevenfold, its not about being a lazy worker, its about NOT putting in your time and doing your homework and scouting. And then whinning about other folks bringing back the big boys while your not seeing anything but does coming to your cornpile.

Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: 10buck2] #831901
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Originally Posted by 10buck2
A hunter in sight of corn is just a reassurance to them that says "Yep, I really am a lazy person and maybe I am a terrible hunter too" Hunting whitetails is like hunting other kind of whitetails, If you cant get one on your own you think its ok to brag about one you went out and bought or in this case SIT OVER CORN. Be honest to folks during your story, say well it all started when I went out to my cornpile and...bla bla...! Let people decide what kind of hunter you really are.


Preach on brother!

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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: 10buck2] #832160
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Originally Posted by 10buck2
Avengesevenfold, its not about being a lazy worker, its about NOT putting in your time and doing your homework and scouting. And then whinning about other folks bringing back the big boys while your not seeing anything but does coming to your cornpile.


This is the time it would be advantageous for me to be willing to put pictures on here and let you decide on if I'm "doing my homework and scouting". But, since I understand the concept of not being willing to sacrifice the war in order to win an Internet battle.....I guess you are right. I'm a lazy hunter that knows nothing about that habitat and habits of the animal that I hunt. I put out corn due to my incompetence and inability to be able to hunt one "the right way"....

If the law says it is legal...then you tell me


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Re: Corn feeders = nocturnal deer???? [Re: T-town] #832184
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I can't remember where I read the report but a study conducted in Mississippi concluded that deer being feed via baiting did become more nocturnal.

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