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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/02/14 08:33 PM
01/02/14 08:33 PM
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Clem
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Another thing:
Turkey Neck goes to hunt his property. Neighbors decide this is BS and start intentionally making noise, hollering for dogs, banging pots to call the chickens or whatever. But only when he's hunting.
This could, or likely would, constitute a violation of the Hunter Harassment law.
Discuss.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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01/03/14 03:24 AM
01/03/14 03:24 AM
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yotetrapper
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This regulation shall not apply to a landowner or member of his or her immediate family hunting on his or her own property provided that no projectile strikes any of the above stated property of another without the permission of the owner or lessee of said property. Means property owner or immediate family can hunt within 100 yards of their house, provided they don't shoot their neighbors stuff regardless of how far away it is.
You are misinterpreting this section of the regulation. This section exempts landowners and their immediate family from having to abide by the 100yd distance from a neighboring dwelling. This is the same exemption that is given to landowners and immediate family that allows them to hunt within 50yds of a public road with centerfire rifles, shotguns with #4 shot or larger, ect...
Jon Bartlett
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 04:02 AM
01/03/14 04:02 AM
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coldtrail
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I bought 80 acres 7 years ago and built a house 75 yards or so from the line. A guy comes in later buys 12 acres beside me and puts a shooting house right on the line. It’s directly behind my house. I went and talked to him just to make sure he knew my house was right through those scrub oaks by his house.
Maybe it offended him maybe not, I could care less. I wanted to be sure he knew where my house was. This guy wasn't the best person in the world and seemed ticked off. But I went out of my way to help him when I had the chance. I never had a problem with him. It didn't go as well with my other neighbors. He had lot of augments with the guy on the other side.
He lost the house and land eventually, so we bought it. Problem solved.
I go out of my way to get along with my neighbors. It has paid off
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 04:22 AM
01/03/14 04:22 AM
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Clem
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I've stirred a little, but you're going to have that problem if you hunt. They'll find out they can't do anything legally and then be watching for when you go out. Mark my words.
And I wish you the best. My first thought was a double row of Leland cypress. The bamboo or cane would be too invasive.
Last edited by Clem; 01/03/14 04:23 AM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: yotetrapper]
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01/03/14 05:43 AM
01/03/14 05:43 AM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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This regulation shall not apply to a landowner or member of his or her immediate family hunting on his or her own property provided that no projectile strikes any of the above stated property of another without the permission of the owner or lessee of said property. Means property owner or immediate family can hunt within 100 yards of their house, provided they don't shoot their neighbors stuff regardless of how far away it is.
You are misinterpreting this section of the regulation. This section exempts landowners and their immediate family from having to abide by the 100yd distance from a neighboring dwelling. This is the same exemption that is given to landowners and immediate family that allows them to hunt within 50yds of a public road with centerfire rifles, shotguns with #4 shot or larger, ect... You are wrong. This allows landowners and immediate family to hunt within 50 yards of a public road: Section 9-11-257 Hunting or discharge of firearm from, upon, or across public roads, etc. Any person, except a duly authorized law enforcement officer acting in the line of duty or person otherwise authorized by law, who hunts or discharges any firearm from, upon, or across any public road, public highway, or railroad, or the rights-of-way of any public road, public highway, or railroad, or any person, except a landowner or his or her immediate family hunting on land of the landowner, who hunts within 50 yards of a public road, public highway, or railroad, or their rights-of-way, with a centerfire rifle, a shotgun using slug or shot larger in diameter than manufacturer's standard designated number four shot, or a muzzleloading rifle .40 caliber or larger in this state, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and shall have all hunting license privileges revoked for one year from the date of conviction.
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 06:45 AM
01/03/14 06:45 AM
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There is no damn road any where near my property. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you think you know more about the law than a lieutenant game warden you are more ignorant than I thought. The law is clearly written if you can't read it plain as day go find you a better pair of glasses.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 07:02 AM
01/03/14 07:02 AM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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There is no damn road any where near my property. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you think you know more about the law than a lieutenant game warden you are more ignorant than I thought. The law is clearly written if you can't read it plain as day go find you a better pair of glasses. Easy there Killer, I never said or implied that there was a road near your property. If you look at what I quoted you will see that I was replying to what Yotetrapper said. No need to insult anyone's intelligence either, and I agree the law is clearly written, (plus you missed the quote thing) so maybe you might want to go see your optometrist also. Happy New Year
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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01/03/14 12:10 PM
01/03/14 12:10 PM
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This regulation shall not apply to a landowner or member of his or her immediate family hunting on his or her own property provided that no projectile strikes any of the above stated property of another without the permission of the owner or lessee of said property. Means property owner or immediate family can hunt within 100 yards of their house, provided they don't shoot their neighbors stuff regardless of how far away it is.
You are misinterpreting this section of the regulation. This section exempts landowners and their immediate family from having to abide by the 100yd distance from a neighboring dwelling. This is the same exemption that is given to landowners and immediate family that allows them to hunt within 50yds of a public road with centerfire rifles, shotguns with #4 shot or larger, ect... You are wrong. This allows landowners and immediate family to hunt within 50 yards of a public road: Section 9-11-257 Hunting or discharge of firearm from, upon, or across public roads, etc. Any person, except a duly authorized law enforcement officer acting in the line of duty or person otherwise authorized by law, who hunts or discharges any firearm from, upon, or across any public road, public highway, or railroad, or the rights-of-way of any public road, public highway, or railroad, or any person, except a landowner or his or her immediate family hunting on land of the landowner, who hunts within 50 yards of a public road, public highway, or railroad, or their rights-of-way, with a centerfire rifle, a shotgun using slug or shot larger in diameter than manufacturer's standard designated number four shot, or a muzzleloading rifle .40 caliber or larger in this state, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and shall have all hunting license privileges revoked for one year from the date of conviction. Yes fuzzy bunny that is the code that I was referring to. I was referring to the language used to exempt the landowner and immediate family from that regulation. You are still misinterpreting the 100yds from a dwelling regulation. Landowners are exempt from and can legally hunt within 100yds of a dwelling so long as they are on their property and no projectile strikes the neighboring property or dwelling.
Jon Bartlett
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: yotetrapper]
#806505
01/03/14 12:44 PM
01/03/14 12:44 PM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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This regulation shall not apply to a landowner or member of his or her immediate family hunting on his or her own property provided that no projectile strikes any of the above stated property of another without the permission of the owner or lessee of said property. Means property owner or immediate family can hunt within 100 yards of their house, provided they don't shoot their neighbors stuff regardless of how far away it is.
You are misinterpreting this section of the regulation. This section exempts landowners and their immediate family from having to abide by the 100yd distance from a neighboring dwelling. This is the same exemption that is given to landowners and immediate family that allows them to hunt within 50yds of a public road with centerfire rifles, shotguns with #4 shot or larger, ect... You are wrong. This allows landowners and immediate family to hunt within 50 yards of a public road: Section 9-11-257 Hunting or discharge of firearm from, upon, or across public roads, etc. Any person, except a duly authorized law enforcement officer acting in the line of duty or person otherwise authorized by law, who hunts or discharges any firearm from, upon, or across any public road, public highway, or railroad, or the rights-of-way of any public road, public highway, or railroad, or any person, except a landowner or his or her immediate family hunting on land of the landowner, who hunts within 50 yards of a public road, public highway, or railroad, or their rights-of-way, with a centerfire rifle, a shotgun using slug or shot larger in diameter than manufacturer's standard designated number four shot, or a muzzleloading rifle .40 caliber or larger in this state, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished for the first offense by a fine of not less than one thousand dollars ($1,000), and shall be punished for the second and each subsequent offense by a fine of not less than two thousand dollars ($2,000) and shall have all hunting license privileges revoked for one year from the date of conviction. Yes fuzzy bunny that is the code that I was referring to. I was referring to the language used to exempt the landowner and immediate family from that regulation. You are still misinterpreting the 100yds from a dwelling regulation. Landowners are exempt from and can legally hunt within 100yds of a dwelling so long as they are on their property and no projectile strikes the neighboring property or dwelling. If that is the case i misunderstood your post. It looks like you were saying the dwelling law applied to hunting near a road. What are you using to back up what you are saying about misinterpreting the law? I agree the verbiage is similar however; the second one is used differently in that it explicitly states that landowners are exempt to hunting by the road
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 02:08 PM
01/03/14 02:08 PM
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yotetrapper
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You're correct that the dwelling regulation doesn't apply to the hunting near a road law. I was just comparing the language that is used in both to exempt landowners from the restrictions made in those laws and regulations.
I am using my experience as a state game warden to interpret the regulation. Landowners and immediate family can hunt their property line even if it's 1yd from a neighboring dwelling. The regulation states "this regulation shall not apply to a landowner or member of his or her immediate family.." They are exempt from the regulation, except that they still can not allow a projectile to strike the neighbor's property.
Jon Bartlett
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 02:10 PM
01/03/14 02:10 PM
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Yotetrapper is pointing out that it is the same as the dwelling law the land owner is exempt. That's what we've been pointing out the whole time.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 03:32 PM
01/03/14 03:32 PM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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Yotetrapper,
In going back and re-reading the law I can see what you are saying. I was overlooking owner or lessee in the first sentence, and was reading it as being unlawful for anyone to hunt within 100 yards of a dwelling and the third sentence as saying landowners are exempt. Meaning they could hunt by or from their own dwelling.
I am big enough to admit that I am mistaken, and also man enough to speak my mind and ask questions. I would rather risk upsetting someone or being wrong than stand before a Judge with my defense being that a GW, or anybody else, said it was ok. GWs are people too, and can make mistakes just like the rest of us. I try my best to base my decisions off of fact not opinions, and I'm sure you and everybody else can understand and respect that.
I am assuming you are the GW Turkey Neck spoke with.
I have to ask, does this come up often, and have you ever had a case go to court? I wouldn't think that there would be many landowners wanting to hunt within 100 yards of somebody's house without their permission. It looks like game retrieval could become a nightmare also.
I have another question: Lets say Turkey Necks neighbors don't hunt and decide to put up a nice deer feeder 25 yards from his stand, and they enjoy bird watching so they frequently broadcast wheat during dove/turkey season on their property. Could he still hunt there? Could the landowner be forced to stop feeding (OK I had two questions)
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 04:05 PM
01/03/14 04:05 PM
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Fuzzy he is not the warden I talked to. And from my understanding of the law you are not liable if you hunt your property lease or own and the neighbor is baiting and you have no knowledge of it. I may be mistaken but it's hard for me to believe you could get a ticket for something not on your property. You have no control of what a neighbor does on his her own property.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Property screen?
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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01/03/14 04:13 PM
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Turkey Neck I agree in that what I have read says you are not liable if it is reasonable, or some such, to believe that you have no knowledge of your neighbors feeding.
My question is from the perspective that you know and can see that your neighbor are feeding, and do you have any right to stop that from happening as a hunter.
Last edited by Fuzzy_Bunny; 01/03/14 04:15 PM.
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