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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774023
12/09/13 07:53 AM
12/09/13 07:53 AM
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Posts: 4,697 Alabama
Rmart30
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High shoulder them for sure with that. I found 2 doe last year about a week after they were shot withen 20 minutes of each other by a club member. They were shot at close range with a 300 mag of some variant.. He thought he missed them both because of no blood and they ran right off. Both were double lung shot and the exit was no bigger than the entrance basically sealing up and leaving no blood trail.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774036
12/09/13 08:10 AM
12/09/13 08:10 AM
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Posts: 26,833 Tampa
Beer Belly
Freak of Nature
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Tampa
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: blumsden]
#774052
12/09/13 08:35 AM
12/09/13 08:35 AM
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Posts: 13,401 Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Booner
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Try some Fusions, my 7mag drops em whether its 30 or 300yrds with em.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774107
12/09/13 09:29 AM
12/09/13 09:29 AM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401 Mobile Alabama
TChunter
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
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Fusion. Shoots better than any other ammo in my rifles.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774108
12/09/13 09:30 AM
12/09/13 09:30 AM
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Posts: 7,444 wrong places wrong time
Robert (BD)
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wrong places wrong time
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Hornady 139 BTSP 7MAG If one runs off its my fault not rhetorically gun.
The hardest part of a Zombie apocalypse will be pretending I'm not excited.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774188
12/09/13 10:46 AM
12/09/13 10:46 AM
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Posts: 9,661 Pisgah Al
Bigbamaboy
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Thanks for all the input. Keep it coming. Sounds like I should consider different ammo, and/or make sure I take that front shoulder out with these close range shots. I hope something works, because my confidence is gone in this gun for now...lol..I even caught my self looking at .270's last night, but who knows, I could have the same issue with it as well.... Well since you said it... I think the 7mm mag round is a good enough round, but is way over kill for deer. The problem is most and I say MOST ppl dont shoot a magnum round well. Recoil and muzzle blast make for a flinch. This translates to poor accuracy and thus lost animals. You said good shot placement, so that would be ruled out in your case. IMHO, i have found that a well constructed bonded bullet is needed for magnum velocities at close range. Ballistic tip type bullets will and do sometimes explode at close range. They shine at longer ranges because they have lost that extra velocity. With standard rounds like the 7mm08, 308 and 270 recoil and muzzle blast are much less and therefore far more comfortable to shoot. This increased confidence, accuracy, and clean kills with little or no tracking. It also seems to me that a wider range of bullet construction types work well in these rounds. I have seen several ppl go from magnum rounds to a lighter round with much better results.
Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Bigbamaboy]
#774259
12/09/13 11:38 AM
12/09/13 11:38 AM
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Posts: 6,908 Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
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it froze over
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Thanks for all the input. Keep it coming. Sounds like I should consider different ammo, and/or make sure I take that front shoulder out with these close range shots. I hope something works, because my confidence is gone in this gun for now...lol..I even caught my self looking at .270's last night, but who knows, I could have the same issue with it as well.... Well since you said it... I think the 7mm mag round is a good enough round, but is way over kill for deer. The problem is most and I say MOST ppl dont shoot a magnum round well. Recoil and muzzle blast make for a flinch. This translates to poor accuracy and thus lost animals. You said good shot placement, so that would be ruled out in your case. IMHO, i have found that a well constructed bonded bullet is needed for magnum velocities at close range. Ballistic tip type bullets will and do sometimes explode at close range. They shine at longer ranges because they have lost that extra velocity. With standard rounds like the 7mm08, 308 and 270 recoil and muzzle blast are much less and therefore far more comfortable to shoot. This increased confidence, accuracy, and clean kills with little or no tracking. It also seems to me that a wider range of bullet construction types work well in these rounds. I have seen several ppl go from magnum rounds to a lighter round with much better results. May or may not apply to you and your situation, but this is very good info here.
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: SFC3]
#774285
12/09/13 11:53 AM
12/09/13 11:53 AM
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Posts: 8,600 Grays Creek, NC
bigcountry692001
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get a 139 grain Hornady Interbond ...
X2
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: TChunter]
#774313
12/09/13 12:11 PM
12/09/13 12:11 PM
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Posts: 4,634 Centreville AL.
sbo1971
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Fusion. Shoots better than any other ammo in my rifles.
X2 Best ammo I have found.
Elite Omnia, Easton FMJ, Axcel Landslyde 5 pin slider.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Stob]
#774375
12/09/13 01:15 PM
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Posts: 98 Prattville
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What he said.... I have hunted with a sender in 300 win mag for 7 or 8 years now. Never makes a difference if there 20 yards or 200 yards, if you take out the front shouler(s) it's just bang and flop. They have a hard time running off when you take out the front landing gear. If your putting it in the right spot its a bang, flop kinda thing.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774400
12/09/13 01:36 PM
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Posts: 3,024 Near Deland, Florida
EDSKI
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....these deer are shot at a close distance of 20-50 yards.... Slug gun
Without your 2nd amendment rights you have no 1st amendment rights.
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: Jtide]
#774559
12/09/13 03:15 PM
12/09/13 03:15 PM
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Posts: 8,456 Harpersville, AL
tfd1224
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Now don't say that a bullet coming out of a 7 mag ain't expanding when it goes through a deer, some dumbass redneck will laugh you off the board like they tried to do me last year. The best advice I can give you is sell that worthless for deer hunting, elk gun that someone sold you and go get a 308, 30-06, 270, 280, 300 mag, 243, 30-30, 35 whelen, 45-70, 7mm 08, anything other than a 7 mag.
Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
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Re: 7mm Mag at close range
[Re: tfd1224]
#774562
12/09/13 03:19 PM
12/09/13 03:19 PM
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Posts: 13,401 Mobile Alabama
TChunter
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Now don't say that a bullet coming out of a 7 mag ain't expanding when it goes through a deer, some dumbass redneck will laugh you off the board like they tried to do me last year. The best advice I can give you is sell that worthless for deer hunting, elk gun that someone sold you and go get a 308, 30-06, 270, 280, 300 mag, 243, 30-30, 35 whelen, 45-70, 7mm 08, anything other than a 7 mag. I love you buddy but WOW, that's BS. Never lost a deer with mine. The ones that did move went 50 yards max. I shoot lungs though, Im practical like that.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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