Who said I was any better than the next guy. I never said that going on a guided hunt or a fenced hunt made you any less of a hunter. There are some people,im sure , that just enjoy the experience . I only said that it only took the ability to make the shot in order to be successful on a hunt where the guide has already done everything for you. My skills as a hunter are limited but I do enjoy doing my own hunting. The emotion of this topic has caused some to construe things I have said into something totally different than what I have said. I still have not seen a response to my statement. Only more questions.

I'm not sure clem. Are you doing your own calling? I go on guided inshore fishing trips and am a living testament that no skill is needed but it sure Is fun.

I've seen one in person. He tried to stop me from voting.

I just pretty much shoot at whatever's flying and hope it's a federally-allowed duck or goose.

Outdoors Fail. *sigh*

Its ok clem. Your still a heck of a writer and the most powerful person on aldeer and darn it people like you. We should start a support group for others like us. (I'm starting to really get in the spirit of keeping this thread going)

Me too.

Here's one thing that I haven't heard any chatter on. Not everyone has time to cut, plant, scout, hang, build, route, cut, trample, scare out, chase down, cross over, wear out, stump break, and mull over a hunting place.

There are lots of people that have jobs and lives and kids playing ball, etc. and they would like to enjoy "hunting" some times. I can tell you that I get lots of guys that want me to do all that for them so they can spend what time they have got to hunt with their son/daughter in the stand or in the blind hunting and seeing deer. I have a 100% at least success rate at people seeing deer on my place. I can't think of any body that has hunted with me and not see some deer.

Bill, you keep getting hung up on BGH stating you said this or that. It ain't necessarily you. There are SEVERAL guys on here that think that anybody that goes on a guided hunt, or hunts in an enclosure, or baits deer with corn (where legal), or uses a scope instead of a bow, and so on is a thug or lazy or gay or what ever they think is a bad word to call them. And the reason they do that is cause that ain't the way they do it. "It" don't even have to be about hunting. "It" could be the make of truck you drive to them.

BGH and myself are just saying that usually, the staunchest opponents to some thing are people that have NO experience with it. Take "gun control", "dog hunting", or "skate boarders" or a dozen other things that loons rare on about.

Guided or fenced hunts are NOT all the same. Men are not all the same. Women are not all the same. Trucks are not all the same. Boobs are NOT all the same........................ and that's all I have to say about that.

So, you're saying shooting deer in a cage is like fondling silicone boobies?

It may look the same, but it ain't?

How many more pages for the record?????

I understand all of that and am all for their right to hunt any legal way of their choosing. I never said it was wrong, unethical, lazy or that I was a better hunter than anyone else. All I said was that it was not for me and that the only skill required on a guided hunt was the ability to make the shot. I did not say that anyone who went on a guided hunt was less of a hunter or that they only possessed the skill to shoot . o only says that was the only skill needed . For those two statements I have been accused of saying all of the above mentioned slights. now if this thread starts to die we can discuss a 4 acre shooting pen I know about here in north bama and that should keep us going for awhile.

How much to hunt it bill????
I've been looking for a slam dunk!

Clem , I haven't ever fence hunted but I have uh... Played with silicone and they should have arrested the girl for using bait. I would have paid her ticket.

i would like to see some proof of the fence and the boobies. Don`t realy care about the fence too much.

I knew I could change the subject............... ( . Y . ) ..........

thats a joke

surely not.

No, he's right. People don't like me.

You kinda turn me on a little, Clem. How about a picture???

I've become photo-installation ignorant since the new site came up.

Draw a big barrel, add fat legs, chubby arms and a fat head. Stick figure after a month at the Golden Corral buffet. That's me.

I guess "silicone boobies" threw off the debate about unethical hunters shooting deer in cages.

Turkey hunters on guided trips must not need much skill to pull a trigger on a longbeard at 22 steps. Wussies.

That depends. I have seen a show where the guided hunter was dressed to look like a hen and they called the strutter up and he bred the poor little guy in the hen suit before being shot. I think that took some skill. The hunter got shot and killed the next week by another hunter. He was dressed in the hen costume and was unarmed.