Here Kitty Kitty

Pet this then:

How about this guy. He's in a cage.

Is he wild??

Wild or free???

Gee, we can do this too.

If somebody wants to buy a trophy in a pen, that's fine by me. However, I wish there were tagging laws in place that required a big friggin hole to be drilled in both antlers before the head could be released into the public. Place a metal tag (like Ohio's) through the holes and we would all know where these trophies came from. I couldn't care less about how someone wants to spend their money, but these bucks shouldn't be allowed to be passed off as free ranging as they sometimes are. Just my two cents. CD.

Sometimes cages just make them wilder:

They are no different at all other than most now are the a product of artificial insemination, bottle fed as fawns, under veterinarian care, around human contact daily. No difference at all.

Good point!

Most people manage "their" deer herd by utilizing a buffer zone of several thousand acres around them. A fence is nothing more than a buffer zone between land owners. If the deer have alot of human contact...they will become less wild than free ranging deer. If they do not have a lot of human contact...they are wild as ever!!!!

Therefore, the wild-or-not deer herd is totally up to the landowner.

I've been going to a fenced lodge in Wilcox County for years and love it!!!

I'm neutral on the subject. As long as it's legal, I don't give a rat's ass what someone else does.
Would I go as a guest if I was invited? Hell ya, I love shooting deer.

I'd go.

Many of the people tha have posted in this thread have NEVER visited a high-fence hunting property. They also have no idea as to the esccape behaviors of whitetail deer.

But, that's fine.
It is not my place to judge them.

The fences are built more to keep 'unwanteds' out than anything else.

High fence hunting is for Pu$$ies..... Or shall I say High Fence killing since it's actually NOT hunting...

It makes a huge difference as to what size place is being fenced in and what the particular set up is like. Thousands of acres enclosed by just one outside perimeter fence; deer that haven't been shipped in from deer farms; and aren't totally dependent on humans for all their food; I'd agree the presence of a high fence around the place probably makes little difference.

That said, most of these places are not that benign. The deer are semi-domesticated, totally dependent on humans for survival, raised like cattle, and enclosed in a small enough area that John J. Gottrocks the III will be pretty much assured a shot after his check clears.

I don't advocate it being made illegal and if it floats your boat knock yourself out. I just take issue with it being called hunting. We used to occasional slaughter a hog on my grandfathers farm but we didn't call it a hunting trip.

Not my cup of tea but if I ever get the urge to do something like this I guess I'll just go shoot one of dads cows. About the same challenge most of these places present.

No he isn't wild. You seem to be under the impression that wild is an all or nothing deal. Obviously you are under the impression if you can't hold an animal in your lap and pet it then it's totally wild. Don't know where you got that definition of tame vs wild but I gotta tell you it is just about the most sub imbecilic, moronic, complete and utter dumb@$$ definition of what is or isn't wild that I have ever heard anyone espouse. And you are making yourself look laughably bad by supporting it in a public forum. There are many degrees of domestication or "tameness" with animals. The bulls in my fathers pasture are domesticated animals but since I doubt any would tolerate me throwing a saddle over their backs that makes them "wild" in your book. LOL!

Where did you learn all you know about animals? Romper Room? Sesame Street? LOL! Lord have mercy.

Another year, same thread and high fenced deer still ain't hunting.

AMEN!

Todd,


I didn't. Those are your words.

So you aren't the one who implied that not being able to pet a leopard at the zoo established it as a truely "wild" animal?

Trust me, I hate to stand up for 49r's position but I believe his point is that just because it has a "cage" around it, does not make it a "tame" animal as some on here believe "high fenced" deer are. I've been in plenty of high fences and most deer are as wild as any outside of the fence. Your point that it all depends on how big a fence and how the animals were grown, is the most valid point.

Wild to me does not necessarily indicate tame or maliciously aggressive.

Wild, IMO, means free-ranging. A hog in a cage at the barn can eat you or nuzzle. But it isn't wild. It's captive.

If you want to shoot animals inside a fence that cannot escape, knock yourself out. Whether it's 40 acres or 4,000, if they are unable to get outside of that fence and roam freely then they are captive. They're not free-ranging.

But unless anything changes, it's legal to do so. Have at it.