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I was looking thru the wma seasons booklet online and it has James d broken into two different zones. Zone A has a 4 on one side restriction. Do any of y'all know which is zone a or b? I can't find anything about it.

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Can you post a link to the online URL? All I can find is the 2012 PDF



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I see no documentation anywhere in that document about zones A or B in Skyline



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i believe the new wma maps will have them labeled. i just looked up the maps and the site said they were not avalible at this time.


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Had a guy that knows the bio up there tell me the other day he thought it was gonna be walls of jerico, new part (around old b and g) and maybe behind shooting range.But that is just what i heard and u know how that goes.

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Well if that's true then my first buck (ever) is gonna be a minimum 8 point smile



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When was this announced, or decided?


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Originally Posted By: Clem
When was this announced, or decided?


Probably at the 3rd (or 4th) CAB meeting this year. grin


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Well if that's true then my first buck (ever) is gonna be a minimum 8 point smile


Or a unique 5, 6, or 7 point buck. 4 on one side is all you need more than likely, check your wma permit when the new ones come out to be sure.

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I'm glad they did that myself. Now if you just want to shoot a deer go to zone b and if you want to be conservative go to zone a. Its got something for every one.

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Is the property that FW bought on Jacob's mountain gonna be opening for sure this season, and if so, will it be walk-in only?


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I looked over the link. It looks like jacobs will be a part of it. All im goin off of though is the acre amount. Its over 60k now, just james d martin. And last year it was high 40's.

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From what the GW told me last year, as soon as the state signs on the dotted line, we can hunt it.

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and IHP is right. Last year James D was in the high 40's now its listed as a fuzz over 60k.

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What about access? Will people be able to ride 4 wheelers all over the place or what about to retrieve deer?


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Originally Posted By: bill_collector
From what the GW told me last year, as soon as the state signs on the dotted line, we can hunt it.


And he told you wrong, but I don't know about this year.


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Im guessing but I say they will use 79 to divide it.


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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Im guessing but I say they will use 79 to divide it.


I heard that as a possibility back in March


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I'm glad they did that myself. Now if you just want to shoot a deer go to zone b and if you want to be conservative go to zone a. Its got something for every one.


On the other WMA's that are split into zones, they normally alternate hunts. So if they are hunting zone A, then zone B will probably be closed. I dont know if you can even bowhunt the other zone on these days. Good and Bad.

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According to that document, Dec13-15 and Dec27-29 are swapped like that here between A and B, the other hunts are all concurrent



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I wish they would do the whole place myself like Barbour.I'd hate to see the daily permit like down there but other than that I like it.


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I wish they would do the whole place myself like Barbour.I'd hate to see the daily permit like down there but other than that I like it.



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Isn't the WMA supervisor at Skyline now the same one who was at Barbour when it went under the antler requirement?


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When was this announced, or decided?


Probably at the 3rd (or 4th) CAB meeting this year. grin


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Missouri Conservation Commission (same thing as CAB) has an average of nine meeting per year throughout the State. I like it like that because it gives more public relations with our Conservation Dept throughout the State.


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Isn't the WMA supervisor at Skyline now the same one who was at Barbour when it went under the antler requirement?


Yep.

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Missouri Conservation Commission (same thing as CAB) has an average of nine meeting per year throughout the State. I like it like that because it gives more public relations with our Conservation Dept throughout the State.


Several states have more than two or three meetings crammed into one part of the year, in order to talk more with the public and hear what they say. Some actually publish a real agenda for the meetings before the meetings, too, so the public will have an idea of what's going to be discussed.


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What about access? Will people be able to ride 4 wheelers all over the place or what about to retrieve deer?


You have to walk and drag your deer out. If I hear you shoot I "MIGHT" come help.

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The policy for Walls of Jericho in the past is that ATVs are allowed solely for the purpose of retrieving a deer



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What about access? Will people be able to ride 4 wheelers all over the place or what about to retrieve deer?


You have to walk and drag your deer out. If I hear you shoot I "MIGHT" come help.


If not, I will just cape it out and walk out with the head. grin


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That would be cool until the warden confronted you with the new rule about leaving animal remains in the WMA smile



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Originally Posted By: PLeopard
According to that document, Dec13-15 and Dec27-29 are swapped like that here between A and B, the other hunts are all concurrent


Being that Dec. 27-29 are usually during or very close to the peak of the chasing phase which ever zone allows a hunt on those days is going to see a lot of pressure.

I'm very glad to see them go to a 4 on one side rule.

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What about access? Will people be able to ride 4 wheelers all over the place or what about to retrieve deer?


You have to walk and drag your deer out. If I hear you shoot I "MIGHT" come help.


If not, I will just cape it out and walk out with the head. grin


Hopefully in the next week or so I am going to get some corn and camera up back there in our little secret spot and see what's creeping around.

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Being that Dec. 27-29 are usually during or very close to the peak of the chasing phase which ever zone allows a hunt on those days is going to see a lot of pressure


That would be Zone B ... According to the theory that A is left of 79 and B is right that would mean that Jericho would be off limits during that period ... Sucks because that's where I've been planning to hunt



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Being that Dec. 27-29 are usually during or very close to the peak of the chasing phase which ever zone allows a hunt on those days is going to see a lot of pressure


That would be Zone B ... According to the theory that A is left of 79 and B is right that would mean that Jericho would be off limits during that period ... Sucks because that's where I've been planning to hunt



It's 60k acres. I wouldn't get hung up on a spot, a section, or zone, yet, especially if you haven't hunted it before.


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I would agree with that. Very good bucks are taken all over Jackson Co., so should be same for the management area.

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I've been scouting a section that is hundred acres or a little more (maybe a few hundred, not sure) for the past several months ... I suppose I should branch out and cover areas in both zones



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ONLY PLACE I HUNTED THERE WAS BEAR DEN POINT ROAD. I LIKED IT.

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I've been considering scouting Bear Den. I got some suggestions on this forum about that area, that and Little Coon ... If 79 splits the zones then that would be the 'other' zone relative to what I've been scouting



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Paul i downloaded the map you spoke of the Bear den point rd walk a long ways you will come to a saddle that has white oaks on it, there is deer there, cause they are like us humans " lazy" they take the path of least resistance. plus i hunt edges, like bass fishing they are on the edge.

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Down the mountain from Bear Den?



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I whacked a few in that saddle over the years. On down by the airplane was always a good spot too. I havent been there in years. CD.

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Not much of the airplane is left. Pieces of it made for nice souvenirs over the years. It crashed there on Pruett ridge many years ago.

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Planes on the end of Pruitt ridge go to south end of bear den point at big saddle head south on Pruitt to south end or u can drive close to it from south end on 4 wheeler only thing about skyline is u better have a couple places in reserve there is no rhyme or reason to we're people hunt I have been on bear den by myself and pulled up there were the pull of is at start of clear cut and see 10 trucks with trailers. Also some good advice put a big log chain under your truck seat for jacka-- . I went back to old corn field parking area one morning in about 6 inch snow when I got to truck there was two idiots stuck sideways in road in two wheel drive 4 door pickups. If I didn't have a chain it would have been along walk to get somebody to come pull them out.

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I whacked a few in that saddle over the years. On down by the airplane was always a good spot too. I havent been there in years. CD.

Killed my first buck below where the plane is, way before the plane crash happened.



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Skyline Zones are published now, click here (PDF)

Zone A is the area south of Hytop and west of 79, Zone B is all else INCLUDING Jericho



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Looks like we got the first 2 weeks of turkey season back.


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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Looks like we got the first 2 weeks of turkey season back.
That's a misprint. Frank Allen told me he is gonna get that fixed.


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Originally Posted By: PLeopard
Skyline Zones are published now, click here (PDF)

Zone A is the area south of Hytop and west of 79, Zone B is all else INCLUDING Jericho


I was hoping for the opposite, but oh well. Maybe they will have success from the 4 point rule and implement in Zone B in a few years.

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Jugheads right about the misprint on the turkey date. Yall find some wheres else to go.

It also looks like all the gun hunts are doe hunts and we don't have to have a stupid permit no more. Long as you have the map your good to go.

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Skyline Zones are published now, click here (PDF)

Zone A is the area south of Hytop and west of 79, Zone B is all else INCLUDING Jericho


I was hoping for the opposite, but oh well. Maybe they will have success from the 4 point rule and implement in Zone B in a few years.


No way it was gonna go opposite...but would be nice if they implemented it on both zones one day soon.


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Originally Posted By: bill_collector
Jugheads right about the misprint on the turkey date. Yall find some wheres else to go.
I'm serious about what Frank Allen said. frown


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Is this land marked with signs (management area)

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Zone A is basically the area south of Hytop Cemetery and west of 79




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Zone schedules are not all that different for A & B ...




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Zone A being closed on 12-27 thru 12-29 is big in my opinion. Don't hunt either but a lot of big bucks chasing does right after Christmas in that area.

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Well I guess I need to find an area in Zone A and start scouting it now. I'm good to go with Zone B ... Would be nice to be able to hunt Dec13-15



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