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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Ben2] #613462
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Just got my first vote to be governor folks. thumbup

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: 49er] #613465
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: bigt
I am not a lawyer and do not know all the other laws that might or might not supercede the one quoted, but if I felt as strongly as you seem to I would definitely be finding me lawyer otherwise your just pissing in the wind and nothing will change.


If you're too dumb to read plain English and understand what it means, then you might want to consider cutting back on giving those who can advice on what they should do.
There you go insulting people again........evidently you just do not have a case and just like to argue


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Ben2] #613472
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
I have killed does in 5 counties that had twin fetuses the last week of january, those counties are cullman, walker, perry, tallapoosa, and shelby.


I have never seen a doe killed in January in Mobile County that had a fetus in it,but I have seen plenty killed in October that did.

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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: bigt] #613475
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bigt,

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There you go insulting people again........evidently you just do not have a case and just like to argue


I presented my case and you said you couldn't understand it because you are not a lawyer.

If you don't understand what's being discussed, then keep your pie-hole shut and try to learn something.

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613478
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Bigt is gonna feed 49er to his pet bears.


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: jsh1904] #613480
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Originally Posted By: jsh1904
Bigt is gonna feed 49er to his pet bears.


Bigt is acting about as juvenile as Clem.

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613485
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Never said i did not understand it........i said i did not know if there was another law or regulation that supercedes the one you quoted. If not then you have a case and should retain a lawyer. Btw I really hope we get the chance to meet one day.........i think it be fun seeing you try to shut my pie hole laugh

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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Ben2] #613487
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
They were just ideas, I would imagine fetus size close to conception date would be the most accurate time you could measure a fetus. The longer the fetus was inside the more factors would lead to different sizes like u say the birth rates vary significantly, but weight and length near conception have to be very similar across the board. if the fetus was 6 inches long odds are u could tell dang near when it was conceived. I have killed does in 5 counties that had twin fetuses the last week of january, those counties are cullman, walker, perry, tallapoosa, and shelby.


So you shoot one in Montgomery county on Jan 30 and it has a fertilized egg from being bred the day before (rather hard to find in the mass of guts) and shoot another that has not been bred yet. Wouldn't be much of a study. Most fetus collected in April ARE about 6" long.


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: 49er] #613488
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: jsh1904
Bigt is gonna feed 49er to his pet bears.


Bigt is acting about as juvenile as Clem.

That is better than being an argumentative old coot like 49er laugh


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: bigt] #613489
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Take your pick:


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... i said i did not know if there was another law or regulation that supercedes the one you quoted.



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... I am not a lawyer and do not know all the other laws that might or might not supercede the one quoted ...


Either way, you don't belong in this discussion.

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613490
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I just realized I have now been compared to the great Clem........I am moving up!


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: 49er] #613494
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Niether do you because evidently you do not have a case or you would have already sued the commissioner!


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: bigt] #613495
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Originally Posted By: bigt
I just realized I have now been compared to the great Clem........I am moving up!



Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613499
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Goodnight 49er it has been fun as usual but got to go to sleep now. Get you some rest and I hope you have a good Sunday!


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: 49er] #613500
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Originally Posted By: 49er
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I'm predicting 7 pages, of which 4 will be copy/paste by 9er.


Stick to your 3F "wildlife farming" in Mississippi and I'll stick to preserving our right to hunt natural wildlife here in Alabama.



I'm well on my way to the greatest prediction ever (7 pages, 4 copy/paste by you)

It was a great day over at the deer farm today. Love those little pets. Can't wait to grow them big and strong, baby them, nurture them and then enjoy watching them in the fall. Heck, I might even find it in my heart to shoot one!


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Ya'll are just overthinking it now

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613501
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I'll take juvenile over irrational, illogical, unrealistic and completely beyond comprehension.

Anyone who believes scientific data collection is "hunting at night" has an obvious problem that can't be helped.

If this were, or is, a true problem then there are thousands of attorneys and judges in the state (and nation) who should be on top of this 'crime' immediately. Those who say this activity is illegal shouldn't have a difficult time finding one to argue the case.


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Clem] #613505
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Couldn't find anything in the law that allows it, could you Clem?

There are at least two participants in this discussion who have been involved in enforcement of our game and fish laws who haven't shown us where there is an exception to the law either.

I supported my argument with evidence. Either show us evidence of a valid exception or sit back and accept the fact that there is not one.


Now let me destroy your little diatribe:
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... Anyone who believes scientific data collection is "hunting at night" has an obvious problem that can't be helped.


This is the applicable statute:
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Section 9-11-235
Taking, etc., of protected birds or animals, raccoons or opossums at night; nighttime hunting of foxes with dogs.

It shall be unlawful, except as to trapping as otherwise provided by law, for a person to take, capture, or kill, or attempt to take, capture, or kill any bird or animal protected by the laws of this state between sunset and daylight of the following day, except that the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may by a duly promulgated regulation, allow the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums between sunset and daylight in any county or counties within the state. ...


Learn to pay attention to what people are talking about. It helps to remain silent and learn from others if you don't have anything of value to add to the discussion.

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Jack Fate] #613509
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It's not hunting.

You're irrational, illogical and unrealistic.

Find a lawyer to prosecute.


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Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: Clem] #613510
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We all have choices to make. I prefer to make my own.

I might choose a brand new 4 wheel drive pick-up instead, I don't know.

You want to got halfs?


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It's not hunting.

You're irrational, illogical and unrealistic.




I never said it was. You might want to direct your rant at whoever put this in the commissioner's Regulation Book:
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DEFINITION OF HUNTING
Hunting includes pursuing, shooting, killing, capturing and trapping wild animals, wild fowl, wild birds, and all lesser acts, such as disturbing, harrying or worrying, or placing, setting, drawing, or using any device used to take wild animals, wild fowl, wild birds, whether they result in taking or not, and includes every act of assistance to any person in taking or attempting to take wild animals, wild fowl, or wild birds.

Re: Hunting At Night Conducted by WFF [Re: 49er] #613515
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I'm pretty certain a man as intelligent and knowledgeable about the Code of Alabama and DCNR's laws and regulations could find one attorney in the state to take up your claims for free. No charge. Just one who would go after such a horrendous, rogue department. Young or old. A truth-seeker. A guy who wants to make his name. A guy who wants to retire after landing that last big fish.

One. Out of thousands.

I even suggested a guy once to you, Tommy Gallion in Montgomery, who has gone after the state before and loves this kind of stuff. He'd probably listen to what you have to say.

Just one, to right the 'wrongs' of three or four decades.

But you won't do it.


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