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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: hunterbuck]
#563261
03/26/13 08:08 PM
03/26/13 08:08 PM
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jmj120
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Honestly, I think if it were made legal there wouldn't be very much of an increase in corn feeding over what's already being done. I think you are sadly mistaken. Corn sales/baiting would go through the roof if legalized. MOST of the people who hunt do it legally and responsibly. It's kinda like a locked gate...the only people a locked gate keep out are the honest people. Honest people will begin baiting if it's made legal. Think corn is high now? Just wait. So you don't think "honest" people are going to place it at least 100 yards and out of sight of their stand? Corn is not some sort of magic deer magnet. I think the perception is out there that a person could dump a bag of corn and shoot a 150 class buck the next day. Are corn prices "through the roof" in Florida? Are Florida hunters less of a hunter than Alabama hunters?? Corn isn't the magic bullet.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: timbercruiser]
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03/26/13 08:51 PM
03/26/13 08:51 PM
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Ethanol and dry weather had a lot more influence on corn prices than a few sacks of corn or the deer. You are correct,sir. Record drought in the Mid-West main factor. A few thousand bushels going into bags with a picture of a deer on it is like a drop of water in the Gulf.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#563301
03/26/13 08:55 PM
03/26/13 08:55 PM
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hunterbuck
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So you don't think "honest" people are going to place it at least 100 yards and out of sight of their stand? Of course they would. That's the point I was making. You argued that if it were made legal, you don't think there would be an increase in corn feeding over what's already being done. I said there would be. Lots more people would do it in creative ways so they could LEGALLY shoot deer coming to the feeder. Corn isn't the magic bullet. I realize that. I live 1/4 mile from the Florida state line, and hunt there several times a year, as well as having lots of friends who hunt down there full time. Absolutely nothing worse than "hunting" by watching a feeder, waiting for it to go off. It's nothing other than a trick to get people to pay more to hunt...which is why I'm totally against baiting. Hunting is expensive enough as it is. You're not going to kill very many bucks off a feeder, but if everyone is doing it, you're forced to because it does draw deer away from your property if you're not doing it too. Plenty of the folks I know who hunt down there wish they had never legalized it.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: hunterbuck]
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03/26/13 09:08 PM
03/26/13 09:08 PM
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jmj120
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So you don't think "honest" people are going to place it at least 100 yards and out of sight of their stand? Of course they would. That's the point I was making. You argued that if it were made legal, you don't think there would be an increase in corn feeding over what's already being done. I said there would be. Lots more people would do it in creative ways so they could LEGALLY shoot deer coming to the feeder. Corn isn't the magic bullet. I realize that. I live 1/4 mile from the Florida state line, and hunt there several times a year, as well as having lots of friends who hunt down there full time. Absolutely nothing worse than "hunting" by watching a feeder, waiting for it to go off. It's nothing other than a trick to get people to pay more to hunt...which is why I'm totally against baiting. Hunting is expensive enough as it is. You're not going to kill very many bucks off a feeder, but if everyone is doing it, you're forced to because it does draw deer away from your property if you're not doing it too. Plenty of the folks I know who hunt down there wish they had never legalized it. So if you're not going to kill many bucks off a feeder, why are you worried about your neighbor's pulling deer from your property? I'm really not following your logic, not surprising though, anyone who would worship Harvey Updyke enough to put his quote as their signature isn't going to be able to logically explain their position.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
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03/26/13 10:59 PM
03/26/13 10:59 PM
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Warrior River Country
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This proposal will be open to public review and comment before it is finalized, probably starting March 1 when the next Alabama Administrative Monthly is published.
March 1 of 2014 ? No. I should have said April 1. I'll fix it. Tks.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: truedouble]
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03/27/13 09:00 AM
03/27/13 09:00 AM
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Currently, baiting "seems" to be much more of a problem for some of you than it really is. The weird, bad, crazy, unethical, dishonest, crooked always stand out and get the attention. This is human nature. That's why if you watch the news every night you want to go crawl in a bunker somewhere and never come out. You are so full of yourself ... !!! If it's not much of a problem, then why haven't the members of the legislature and the clowns at the DCNR been able to define what an "affected area of baiting" is after several years of mulling it over? Are there any restrictions on liberty that you don't like?
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/27/13 09:38 AM
03/27/13 09:38 AM
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Hogwild
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I feed in a couple of places in the middle of my property to hold the deer on the property. There is no hunting in the area around the feeders.... BUT, my definition of area and the GW's may not be the same?????
What is *your* definition of "area" in terms of distance in yards from hunter to feeders?? I would wager a guess that the very closest stand to any of the 3 feeders is about 250 yds. You need to also be reasonable with your distances. On a square 40 acre block, with a feeder in the middle of the property...it would be impossible to be on the property and be over 220 yds away from the feeder. I feel certain that was one of the considerations of the CAB. It could be easily construed that acreage restrictions are discriminatory.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
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03/27/13 05:37 PM
03/27/13 05:37 PM
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Deer make grown men act like 2 year old kids. I fixed it for you. Grown men will apparently do anything to make killing a deer easier and then complain that too many deer are being killed by everybody but them.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Fun4all]
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03/27/13 05:57 PM
03/27/13 05:57 PM
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Hogwild
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Deer make grown men act like 2 year old kids. I fixed it for you. Grown men will apparently do anything to make killing a deer easier and then complain that too many deer are being killed by everybody but them. Don't forget that it will also make grown men throw temper tantrums and sull up if the Law does not provide for THEIR own personal beliefs and morals! 
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Hogwild]
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03/27/13 07:53 PM
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jmj120
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Deer make grown men act like 2 year old kids. I fixed it for you. Grown men will apparently do anything to make killing a deer easier and then complain that too many deer are being killed by everybody but them. Don't forget that it will also make grown men throw temper tantrums and sull up if the Law does not provide for THEIR own personal beliefs and morals! Agree. I finally found a lease where there doesn't seem to be any jealousy.... I leased some land by myself. Don't have to worry about the sign out board hogs or the guy who asks 50 questions when you get back to the cabin. I've been in leases and witnessed grown men almost in tears staring at the property map trying to figure out where to hunt.
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Hogwild]
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03/28/13 06:36 AM
03/28/13 06:36 AM
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AMEN!
Our little lease is basically all family. Only 1 guy and his son that aren't close family.....and he is a lifelong friend.
We are very open and honest about what we see and everyone works hard HOPING for the others to all have good hunts!!!
In my experience, that is RARE! That is rare. I vowed to never again fool around in a club full of aggressive type folks. Hunted in one lease in Montgomery County where the earliest you could sign in was 4:30AM. There were guys showing up at 3:30am and sitting in a chair at the sign in board. I paid 2000 dollars and hunted the place twice. It was pitiful
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
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03/28/13 08:27 AM
03/28/13 08:27 AM
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AMEN!
Our little lease is basically all family. Only 1 guy and his son that aren't close family.....and he is a lifelong friend.
We are very open and honest about what we see and everyone works hard HOPING for the others to all have good hunts!!!
In my experience, that is RARE! That is rare. I vowed to never again fool around in a club full of aggressive type folks. Hunted in one lease in Montgomery County where the earliest you could sign in was 4:30AM. There were guys showing up at 3:30am and sitting in a chair at the sign in board. I paid 2000 dollars and hunted the place twice. It was pitiful Just curious, but how did you know that they were there sitting at 3:30am, were you there too?
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Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Ponderosa]
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03/28/13 09:18 AM
03/28/13 09:18 AM
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jmj120
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AMEN!
Our little lease is basically all family. Only 1 guy and his son that aren't close family.....and he is a lifelong friend.
We are very open and honest about what we see and everyone works hard HOPING for the others to all have good hunts!!!
In my experience, that is RARE! That is rare. I vowed to never again fool around in a club full of aggressive type folks. Hunted in one lease in Montgomery County where the earliest you could sign in was 4:30AM. There were guys showing up at 3:30am and sitting in a chair at the sign in board. I paid 2000 dollars and hunted the place twice. It was pitiful Just curious, but how did you know that they were there sitting at 3:30am, were you there too? Was told by the president of the club who spent the night there. Actually one of the long time members of the lease left that morning and hasn't been seen since. Actually, it's your lease I'm referring to.
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