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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: 2Dogs]
#526733
02/07/13 04:00 PM
02/07/13 04:00 PM
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,851 North Bama
demp17
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What's the over/under on 15 pages? How many bans?
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Blessed]
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02/07/13 04:09 PM
02/07/13 04:09 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 11,348 Prattville AL
ElkHunter
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Clem]
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02/07/13 04:12 PM
02/07/13 04:12 PM
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Posts: 6,999 Holly Pond, AL
NightHunter
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Go to a DMAP system where each property/club/co-op can be managed on its own merit. Hasn't that been revived again? And isn't one of the Commissioner's planned proposals, to be discussed this Saturday at the CAB meeting, to have a better data-gathering method through a tagging and/or tele-check system? Not sure... I haven't stayed in the loop like I did in the past.
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/07/13 04:17 PM
02/07/13 04:17 PM
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Posts: 4,969 Nashville, TN
BSK
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"What can we do....."
Require every landowner to plant 50% of their property in soybeans. About the best answer you can have!
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/07/13 04:17 PM
02/07/13 04:17 PM
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Posts: 4,674 Madison, AL
wmd
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts. Barry - what were the season limits back then? I didn't grow up hunting in Alabama, so I don't know.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: BSK]
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02/07/13 04:19 PM
02/07/13 04:19 PM
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Matt Brock
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My response would be, "Why would you want to turn AL into a trophy state?"
Almost word for word what I said.
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: wmd]
#526765
02/07/13 04:34 PM
02/07/13 04:34 PM
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ElkHunter
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For those that say it can't be done, I am old enough to remember when south Montgomery (Woodley Rd area) had monster bucks. Lots of soybeans planted back then in that area and they had BIG bucks. We might not grow 200 in deer but we could dang sure improve alot over what we have now.
Bill hit the nail on the head. And like he said, I am not in favor of this. Just stating the facts. Barry - what were the season limits back then? I didn't grow up hunting in Alabama, so I don't know. We had a certain number of "Doe Days" and a buck a day.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Blessed]
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02/07/13 04:42 PM
02/07/13 04:42 PM
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Posts: 9,899 North Jackson
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Two week gun season before or after the rut.
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Clem]
#526779
02/07/13 04:43 PM
02/07/13 04:43 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363 Montgomery
WmHunter
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WmHunter, I know the soil/food/deer is different in the Midwest and North but believe you missed my point.
The statement was made that Alabama has too many poachers, therefore poachers are the reason bucks can't get to 'trophy' size.
The six states I listed all have poachers that shoot bucks. I'd argue that our Bama poachers, and we have plenty, no doubt, are not the reason we don't have 'trophy' bucks "like other states."
ok, gotcha. sorry for missing your point. I agree.
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/07/13 04:53 PM
02/07/13 04:53 PM
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Blessed, you just have to keep preaching and practicing QDM and that is all you can do. You cannot force it on people and we certainly don't want more government involvement than there already is. Trying to get bucks into the older age brackets begins with what we do ourselves on the territory that we have control over, and of course the same goes for habitat management. Even then, as I said upstream, you are never going to see the same percentage of 4.5 or 5.5 year old bucks in Alabama get to (much less exceed) the 150 mark as in the Midwest. That is just the way it is - unless there was a massive agricultural revolution.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Blessed]
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02/07/13 05:41 PM
02/07/13 05:41 PM
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Your right WmHunter its all about educating people I agree, as long as the "education" involves accurate information. I honestly believe that for much of AL, the problem isn't getting bucks into the older age-classes, it is getting hunters to understand that most AL land won't grow large antlers on even mature bucks. Up in TN, one of the biggest problems I run into with "educating" hunters is getting them to understand that even if they do produce mature bucks, most of those mature bucks are only going to grow 110-120 antlers. Most Southeastern hunters have been watching too many hunting shows filmed in the Midwest, were bucks grow 20 to 30 more inches of antler than same-age bucks in the Southeast.
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Blessed]
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02/07/13 06:01 PM
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First we'd need a fleet of helicopters with spreaders attached.
There are about 33.5 million acres in Alabama. We'd need to spread 67 million tons of lime for the first two years, then again at least every other year.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: What Can We Do As Hunters In Alabama To Make Our State a Trophy Whitetail State
[Re: Blessed]
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02/07/13 06:05 PM
02/07/13 06:05 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,008 Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Gotta do soil samples first, Fur. Here's your 55-gallon drum.
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